Mad props to Dave Dresden and Jamie Oliver

Hello all from a new member and unintentional contrarian. Please accept both my humble wishes for a great new year and an e-Guiness Extra Cold (see attachment).

First, thanks to Dave Dresden (if he hasn't been scared away from the forums) for the great Someone Like You remixes, particularly the 911 vocal. I'm only partially (say, 5 percent) sucking up...honest. The track is still in there, but with a massive bass thump and a really nice, melancholy ambience that transforms the chorus into something altogether beautiful and foreboding. Now if Reprise would just put out a nice CD of these for us poor slobs in the U.S. who are still waiting for a second single. Get Ready...and wait.

Second, I was lucky enough to spend part of the summer in London and have clung to Naked Chef broadcasts on the Food Network as a feeble reminder of my wonderful time there. If the U.K. doesn't want him, you can exchange him for me. Just send me the plane tickets and I'll arrange the rest. Please? I promise not to say "pukka."

Oh, did I mention that I've grown to love Rock the Shack? Great interplay between Steven and Hooky...lovely coating of fuzz on the bass and sumptuous cymbal rides. Maybe I just miss my own days in a guitar band, but this is a great track. Viva Get Ready.

I await your flames.

Get up get get get down 911's a joke in yo town

Aren't "Mad Props" people who play rugby?

"maybe i've forgotten all the shame and the distress...

...of everyone i've ever known playing dumb mixes..."

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Marco, you're a tease. I followed the link from your profile and found nothing but Your Silent CD Cover. At least post some isolated tracks we can remix while we wait!

Please...let's all try to show some respect for remixers and their creative contributions (excepting, of course, the Supermen Lovers mix of 60MPH, which quite obviously sucks platypus entrails).

In other news, I think Peter Saville has something to do with the folks who make Caffeine Free Diet Coke. I brought home a case yesterday and found an inexplicable red stripe on each side. Maybe we should prepare for a New Order jingle a la Sunkist.

Thanks for the warm welcome! As a trained rhetorician, I'll do my best to balance things out dialectically with a steady peppering of "blows," "sucks," "rocks," "kicks ass," "on crack," "what's this smack?" and so on.

Breaking news from the home page of the U.S. site neworderweb.com..."Get Ready" released on 16 October! Has this been discussed here already?

"Get up Jack/Time for a rock of crack."

Welcome to the madhouse you stinky North American. :p What exactly does Gnu Odor (Odour to us non phonetic Brits) smell like? Does that little twat Jamie Oliver come close? I've never smelt him but he sure looks like shit! And he talks a fair bit of it too!

October 16?....NO, I FUCKING FORGOT! DAMMIT!

I got a snail mail from our sadly missed chum Marty yesterday, about a couple of hundred words long and ..... coherent!! Imagine that, coherent! He must have calmed down some in the last week or so!

Originally posted by Grigory Rasputin, the mad mystic of Petrograd I think I quite like this Gnu person...but I have my doubts about this being an honest to goodness newbie...I got it, it's Martin, in his new locale, with a brand new attitude...yeah right!!!

I bet it's Jerry!

God I hope not.....

To demonstrate your genuineness, Gnu, tell us something about Cleveland.

Originally posted by Grigory Rasputin, the mad mystic of Petrograd now Patsy...play nice...from what I understand...there isn't really anything all that great about Cleveland...that's why the one friend I have there is moving to either Dallas or Houston!!!!like we have a whole hell of a lot to offer down here!!!!

Well, actually, Jeff, looking at his profile, there's nothing that looks obviously fake. Perhaps he's really who he says he is.

Originally posted by Grigory Rasputin, the mad mystic of Petrograd by the way Patrick...a happy new year to you sir!!!!

Thanks, Jeff, happy new year to you as well!

Originally posted by Muffy I got a snail mail from our sadly missed chum Marty yesterday, about a couple of hundred words long and ..... coherent!! Imagine that, coherent! He must have calmed down some in the last week or so!

I've had two, both made perfect sense ! Still won't give me Sarah Cracknell's phone number though, the bastard !

Patrick -

Hmmm...something about Cleveland. We'll, I live downtown, about a stone's throw from the Rock Hall (I haven't hit it yet...my pitching arm's weak). I went in once for a $5 Poe concert but don't expect to return until they open the proposed (by me) My Bloody Valentine wing.

I also live a block away from the Halle Building, which is the stand-in for the Winfred-Lauder building exterior on the Drew Carey Show. Not only that, but I think that's downright cool -- enough so that I'd mention it here in public. (What more proof do you need?!) Oh yeah, the opening of some Harrison Ford action movie (Air Patriot Force One Games) was shot at Severance Hall.

A batallion of Radio City Rockettes stayed next door last month, but I only ran into them at Starbucks in the mornings, where they wore sweatpants and no makeup. I was awakened last summer by screaming pre-teens when NSync's tour bus pulled up in front of the same hotel.

Get Ready is number 15 kazillion on the local airplay charts. We had one good radio station a few years back (The End) which has been replaced by an "urban contemporary" station exclusively playing songs about cell phones, abuse of cell phones by lame-ass boyfriends, and "da chronic." Word, yo.

You can buy Polish Boys from street vendors, and it's legal.

Unlink Pittsburgh with "Y'uns" and Boston with "Wicked," we have no funny turns of speech. None.

We still claim Pere Ubu with pride, though we don't like to talk about Trent Reznor anymore (and vice versa). Don Dixon lives outside of town on a farm, and you might run into Dave Thomas (of Ubu, not Wendy's) at the new Peabody's. Michael Stanley still plays out, although I have no fucking idea who other than his mother would show up.

You European and South American football (soccer) fans would have laughed out loud at the so-called "riot" we had at the last Browns home game. Not one fire was started. Jesus McFuck. (Hey, I mentioned Jesus. Does that make me Jerry?)

I don't know what else to say. I first heard New Order in 1984 and am now old enough that the words "prostate exam" make me wince with the cold ring of truth. How's that for genuine?

Do you guys check out everybody like this, or only those who claim to like "Rock the Shack?"

OK, Gnu, I'm convinced. Actually, I was already convinced. No, we don't check out everybody like this. You just seemed too good to be true. What took you so long to join us?

Originally posted by Betty Ford > Originally posted by Patrick> OK, Gnu, I'm convinced. Actually, I was already convinced. No, we don't check out everybody like this. You just seemed too good to be true. What took you so long to join us?>

Well something smells fishy to me - and it's not my baws before anyone starts;) Call me cynical if you want - I don't gie a flying feck

Can you point to specific fishynesses, Bettyo?

Fishy, hmm? Well, my AOL screen name is fishhands. And I had baked salmon twice last week, too. Plus, my very first post here has since burst aflame! I'm on fire! 2002 is good.

I am not a troll. I really do like the Naked Chef, and the Fat Ladies too. I'm an anglophile and proud. I find the British accent (and backdrop) very comforting, and having barely survived a master's degree in English, the last thing I want to see is another Masterwank Theatre presentation of Jane Fucking Austen. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to have against Jamie Oliver, but the thread on his twatiness cracked me up. I honestly didn't realize it was so uncool to like him. Now that I've donned a flak jacket and riot gear, I may as well admit that I like Christopher Hitchens and Bob the Builder as well. Teach me, o masters!

As far as Olivier, he was good too. I visited his grave in Westminster Abbey last July.

-- Absolut and cranberry break --

As far as remixes, I was shocked that a New Order forum would be so against remixes in general. Some of my most treasured vinyl includes 12" remixes of (don't laugh) Wonderland/Steeltown-era Big Country. This was back in '84, and some uncredited guy was (I assume) flying huge, live drum tracks into an early digital delay/sampler and building these massive audio reworkings. I thought those were astounding, and I've been hooked ever since. Plus, I was sucking up to Mr. Dresden. Send me any excess remix work you can't handle, sir.

As far as Rock the Shack, I feared the worst when I heard that was an honest-to-God title, and Slow Jam? A New Order track called Slow Jam? What the fuck! Is this the Grateful Dead? But what can I say...I've grown to love Get Ready. I love the sound of the guitars...you can just hear the speaker cone buzzing up against a cheap-ass Shure SM-57. I love the mix of live drums and sequencers. And after Republic (aka Your Silent Bass), I'm so glad to hear Hooky amped-up and fuzzed out (he reminds me of me when I was slightly older). Face it, people...this is the same group that recorded Unknown Pleasures. They've grown up, and so will you.

-- Absolut and cranberry break 2 --

Here's the real deal, kids. I listened to Technique about a billion times before I realized that Run, up until the bridge, is just guitar, bass and live drums. I had always considered Technique (with Fine Time, Dream Attack, and Mr. Disco) an "electronic" record...and New Order is so sneaky, they managed to slip what is basically an acoustic track right in the middle, and the transition is absolutely friggin' seamless. That's the New Order sound. That's technique.

-- Absolut and cranberry break 3 --

So, do you guys ever fantasize about Bob the Builder and Wendy getting it on? I'll be checking in now, Mrs. Ford.

P.S. I've got the vinyl of The Magic of ABBA on K-Fucking-Tel! Can you step to that!

-- Absolut and cranberry break 4 --

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Gnu Oddball - what's wrong with Trent Reznor? He may be a sad deluded old goth but he still rocks, man!!! Better than all these little pussy-boy dick-wet Nu Metal asslickers!!!

At least I agree with you on Pere Ubu - what a fucking GOD!!! Respect!