Sorry about all this everyone.
I've been working until 9 PM tonight, then hit a restaurant and it's been only 10 minutes until I bumped onto this thread.
I read this thread with great attention. Some pretty surprising remarks (and quite stupid as well) were made, and some others very witty, very intelligent.
I won't start a rant, but let me just say this: generalization has always been very dangerous, as History has shown. Generalization has always been the easiest path to take for those who were looking for scapegoats to vent their personal frustrations, or for those who didn't have the capacity to understand the complex nature of the human being. Even, for those who just can't understand the complexity of the world we live in.
Liv, I must salute your witty comments.
I said it all before and I said it all again: this website will always promote free speech, and I personally do not dislike having discussions on serious and/or more intellectual matters from time to time.
But for everyone's benefit, please let me remind you, and especially the maker of this thread, of the Terms of Use of this website and especially of our basic Community Standards which were violated by this thread and why they were violated:
OFFICIAL WEBMASTERS DECLARATION
Our General Principles:
We expect that all members of NewOrderOnline will behave in a way that’s conducive to the diversity, intelligence and respectfulness of the community. Each of these three general principles is fundamental to the quality of our site.
Diversity – We’re a community of thousands of fans of different countries, from different backgrounds and with different perspectives on music and life. At all times, we expect our members to respect that.
It is pretty obvious that this thread did not respect DIVERSITY.
Intelligence – We’re a community with quality standards and expect our members will make a sincere effort to contribute their thoughts on interesting subjects in a meaningful and respectful manner. Posting messages and otherwise interacting on NewOrderOnline is completely optional; many members often prefer to just read what others have to say. But if you do post, we expect that you’ll be respectful of the time of others by posting meaningfully.
This thread wasn't exactly meaningful, to say the least.
Respectfulness – We expect our member to show respect for others. Respecting their person, their musical tastes, their time and their opinions – even if you disagree with them.
This thread was completely disrespectful in its essence.
Basic Guidelines:
The following three categories of online conduct are unacceptable at NewOrderOnline and constitute a violation of our Community Standards which may result in warning, suspension or loss of membership:
Harrassment… Harassment occurs when a member insults, attacks, and denigrates another member at any time. Even though we realize that discussions can get intense, we have zero tolerance for taking an argument about a topic to a personal level. For instance, the use of terms such as "idiot, moron, stupid" and other derogatory terms constitutes harassment. Harassment not only includes individuals but also can apply to insults against others members of NewOrderOnline. Repeated critical and sharply negative posts toward a forum members can also constitute harassment.
Disruption… Posts which intend to disrupt the topic of conversation or steer the topic away from the focus of the forum and related news. Disruption can include harassment, multiple posting of the same post and posting completely off topic messages.
Vulgarity and Sexual Explicitness… As a community with a diverse variety of members and readers, we ask that our members to post without using vulgarity. Vulgarity not only includes vulgar language and pictures but also sexist, racist, anti-religious and homophobic language which may offend other members. In addition, the "masking" of vulgarity by inserting * or another keystroke in place of one or more letters in a vulgar term is unacceptable in most cases. We realize that there's a "grey area" of judgement with vulgarity but we ask that you'll respect others by avoiding vulgarity.
I think it is pretty clear that these three elements were violated by this thread and the maker of this thread.
THEREFORE:The user who created this thread and perpetuated it gets an official warning from the webmasters. A second violation might bring an immediate account suspension or a permanent ban without further warnings.
We will not, in any way, tolerate any type of disruption which might break the incredible harmony and spirit of friendship which is now associated with this forum.
Let this be also a warning for those users who, from time to time, tend to post countless off topic messages, which is a form of disruption, and is not acceptable based on our community standards.
NewOrderOnline.com aims for quality and its forum should be the reflection of that.