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As this is the place I come to for all things European, I proffer this question: why is Frenchy such a pretentious, ungrateful bastard?

Consider the evidence:

* If it we not for Joe and Tommy, Frenchy would be speaking just like Jerry. Yet, Frenchy has a fit when an "American" word like "internet" finds it's way into Frenchy's precious language.

* If it were not for Joe and the Eigth Air Force and Tommy and Bomber Command, Frenchy wouldn't have his own airspace, let alone any airspace to deny Joe the use of on his way to bomb Lybia.

* While Coco Channel was busy "servicing" an SS officer, Joe and Tommy (and even Ivan) were busy trying to liberate here sorry fu$%ing country. And yet, we in America took in her collaborating ass for ten years so the few real men in France couldn't hang her for being the traitorous bitch she was.

Anyway, what's the deal with Frenchy?

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Don't know, don't care. Just if they come to our country make them speak perfect english, like I had to speak perfect french to get any service down there. Fooking Frenchfries! :violent: And thier eiffel tower isn't that great! Thanks for the great holiday, Jackasses! Oh, bad flashbacks, make it go away!

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Vive les frites, avec de la mayonnaise !

YAY !

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actually, that's the only thing I took back from your country. I put it on them every time I eat them. But that's the only good idea you've ever had. And your national soccer team sucks to!

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Having some French blood, and with every intention of convincing the young French lady who works with my brother that she should become my next victim, I'm not entirely in favour of this thread ! Personally I like the French. My resemblance to Zinedine Zidane is not confined to the pitch either :)

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Michael, MyDearButt, I think starting this kind of thread when you come from most infamous imperialist country in the world is somewhat misplaced - BTW, ever thought of using air space for other matter than bombing, dear friend?

Our beloved Québécois webmestres will lock that thread in seconds if it goes on like this. Remember there's also a connection between Québec and France.

Or maybe you were just posting like a troll to get flamed as much as you can???

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I like anyone who wind up the English tabloids - bunch of arrogant fuckwits - I love France, Germany, Argentina and any other nation who does not bow down to English Ideology - I mean if I go to another country on holiday - I at least try the lingo - but if you believe everythimg you read in the newspapers, everyone should speak English - it's this kind of arrogant shite that really annoys me:mad: Bring on the Euro's:lol:

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Th French are so depressing, what with their Camus, their Sartres, john Calvin and that crazy bunch, DeGaulle. Having never been there, I can't speak for individuals, but overall the view of France is negative. I think the French are still pissed about rolling over and taking it from the Germans in WWII, but I hear Paris is nice.......:D

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Michael, was there some current specific thing that provoked you?

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He probably read some Camus and felt angry......:D

I'll concede this: I love French Fries

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Okay everyone...

what the hell brought this little tirade about?

Mike, you are probably correct, if the U.S. and the English hadn't gone in and bailed out France in both of the World Wars, France would probably be just another state of Nazi Germany.

But go back a few years...the American Revolution to be exact...do you remember that it was a wealthy young Frenchman (Lafayette), who spent a great deal of his own personal fortune to buy arms for the rebels, patriots, revolutionaries (whatever term applies), and fought with the Americans as well. And remember Yorktown? Why was it that Cornwallis could not escape? It was the French fleet, led by Admiral Degrasse (I believe), that prevented the English fleet from reaching the British Army...

So before we start ranting too much about what the French are doing that may not always sit well with us Americans, remember what they did to make sure the United States even got a beginning....

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And Trevor...

what about French Toast???

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Oh, Pitchy-

Imperialism!?!?! You have just a smidge of that in your own defeated history. But, that's a whole other issue.

Let's talk about American "imperialism" for just sec, ok? It seems that when we're burning through billions of dollars in fuel, ordnance and personel to clean up messes in your own back yard (where is Slobo these days, anyway) you don't seem to mind our "imperialism". While we were rebuilding your country that's been defeated too many times to count, you didn't seem to mind our "imperialism".

You guys kill me. By the way Pitchy, green is not your best color.

Tabster-

Do you know why the streets of Paris are tree lined? So the Germans can march in the shade. :)

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Originally posted by Patrick Michael, was there some current specific thing that provoked you?

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Honestly, I'm not anti-French (despite three years of studying their language-hah! I barely remember any of it because there's no French-speaking community to interact with). I was being facetious with the whole "French Fries" thing, and I do seriously believe the French have a national insecurity complex (Napoleon conquered Europe than lost it all in less than 20 years. That's gotta hurt), but to suggest they're all disagreeable somehow is wrong. No anti-Frenchness, please (keep in mind the webmasters in QUEBEC before you start on such a rant)

:read:

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Jeff-

I know, I know. The French were very helpful in the infancy of this country. Props to them. It just seems that like that particular debt has been paid in full ten fold with loan shark's points. It would be nice, however, not to have it reported on Fox News that Le Monde is writing how we in America should not be hunting down and dismembering the cowardly bastards that flew planes into two very large buildings in downtown NYC. But, we should rather be studying the "root causes" of what WE did to cause the terrorists to want to do such a thing.

OK Frenchy: the next time Jerry debuts "Blitzkrieg -The Sequal", the first thing we'll do is STUDY the "root causes" of why Jerry is such an aggressive chap and REALLY TRY to get him counseling.

Anyway, to answer your question Jeff. That's what set me off. Frenchy is ALWAYS the first to crack America when we're trying to take care of business. And in this particular case, it's NONE OF FRENCHY'S business. They didn't have planes flown into their freaking erector set tower.

Screw Frenchy. But keep the fries coming.

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So what's the deal with insulting the french?

Not sure I like the way this thread is going.. I'll put it under close watch, but since my ancestors are french, I sure don't like the way it's going.

P/S: Unless you didn't notice because you only saw Saving Private Ryan, the Canadians, and many FRENCH-Canadians help to get the Nazis out of France..

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Hmm, how soon we forget giving arms and money to Osama back during the Soviet occupation....Look, what they did was wrong and unexcuseable, but let's examine the reasons why so we can prevent it from occuring again. Our national arrogance may very well be our downfall if we're not careful. And anoher thing...(agents encircle the house on orders from Bush, and Tabsy is arrested in mid-sentence)

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Patrick -

It was reported on Fox News that Le Monde was talking about how we (Americans) were going about dealing with the terrorists ALL WRONG. We "should" be studying what we did to bring the 9/11 attacks on ourselves.

That's why.......

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The Americazation of history (ie We cracked the Enigma code, not the Brits, in the otherwise good "U-571") is bad, and there needs to be more acknowledgement of international acheivements in Hollywood, but who'd go see it? Give us our Tom Cruises and the like battling super criminals with a weakness for revealing their plots....oh wait, James Bond villians do that, my mistake. Anyway, America isn't the center of the universe, so let's dispense with such misguided nationalism now.

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Nicolas-

I have absolutely no problem with Canada or French Canadians. The Canadian army took murderous fire on D-Day and accounted for themselves very well.

Here it is in a nutshell. When all is well, it's cool, acceptable and encouraged to crack the USA. But, when the S*&T hits the fan, well.........it's amazing the transformation that takes place from the world's fat, stupid, capitalist ,imperialist, misogynistic, racist oaf of a country into the world's bennevolent policeman or the world's supermarket with a huge "food for free - plus free C-130 delivery" sign on the front doors.

That's all.

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Originally posted by Michael McDermott Patrick - It was reported on Fox News that Le Monde was talking about how we (Americans) were going about dealing with the terrorists ALL WRONG. We "should" be studying what we did to bring the 9/11 attacks on ourselves.That's why.......

And maybe they have a point.......

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I am totally appalled by the content of this thread. This is not the place for racist rantings and I for one am not interesting in reading the opinions of bigots and xenophobes.

This is the year 2002. I think some people have forgotten that!

Liv :angel:

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Originally posted by Michael McDermott Patrick - It was reported on Fox News that Le Monde was talking about how we (Americans) were going about dealing with the terrorists ALL WRONG. We "should" be studying what we did to bring the 9/11 attacks on ourselves.That's why.......

Thanks, Michael. That's what I was wondering about. I certainly agree (and I think at least 90% of us in the U.S. do) that what we have done in Afghanistan so far is about 99% right.

And it is not at all pleasing to hear critical comments from people who didn't have terrorists murder 3,000 people in one of their major cities.

So if that's what we're talking about, let's at least be clear that that's what we're talking about.

Best wishes to everybody (except Osama and his friends).

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Originally posted by Michael McDermott Patrick - It was reported on Fox News that Le Monde was talking about how we (Americans) were going about dealing with the terrorists ALL WRONG. We "should" be studying what we did to bring the 9/11 attacks on ourselves.That's why.......

I don't read Le Monde. It's crap.

But I don't watch Fox News either Must be crappier me thinks...

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Tabster -

U-571 is a good example. I think what it illustrates is the poor understanding of history that most people have.

On a side note, the whole Enigma story is very interesting. Most of what happened at Bletchley Park is STILL highly classified.

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And frankly I think Osama and friends would be quite happy to kill thousands of people in Paris and London as well, and what would people in those places be saying then?

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Liv-

Maybe you'd like to point out (specifically) what was "racist", "bigoted" or "xenophobic" in what has been said.

Lables are easily applied, but more difficult to make stick when examined closely.

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Mike, your problem is you actually believe what you hear on Fox News. Turn it to CNN, you'll probably have a less stressful day. Fox News is so biased towards the Right Wing, especially now. In fact, the one guy who actually strikes me as an honest newsman over there is.........(gasp) Bill O'Reilly. Sure he's a moralist, but the attention he brought to the 9/11 fundraising mess puts him head and shoulders above the rest of the pack. He's been critical of Bush's ties to Enron when no one else had the balls to address the problem, so I have to say his stock has risen for me. Other than that and Foxs Newswatch, the vacuous airheads who anchor the network make me sick

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Patrick-

A good point made about how others would feel with smoldering ruins in the center of one of their major cities.

They really should walk a few miles in our Nike's before criticizing too much.

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