Message from Jarvo in Oz

Hello People, I have just received a text message on my mobile phone directly from Allen Jarvis in Austrailia. ... in summary he said...

"USA dates deffo OFF. Band had a meeting last night to decide.

Hooky has put on 2 stone, as had Phil C (must be the bad influence)

Set list was almost idential except the did Isolation for an encore. Quite boring really....

In gerenal a very disappointing gig... but the beer and banter are good"

Thats about it.... All that from a text message.... Its technology incredible...

Liv

does it cost the same to text international?

Originally posted by Mitch does it cost the same to text international?

Don't know, dont think its too expensive.... If it is, i'll be sending him the bill

Liv

Originally posted by Liv > Originally posted by Mitch> does it cost the same to text international?

Don't know, dont think its too expensive.... If it is, i'll be sending him the bill

Liv

Can you text me his number please Liv ?

THis sucks...this really sucks

Actually, I was thinking they should take a break from the touring. Returning to the US at this point would be self-abusive for our lads. Touring the States is what made Barney crack in the first place right? Plus, we may get a new set of songs for their next trip across the pond (the polluted, stanky pond). Good Luck to NewOrder on the rest of their Aussie tour and may 2002 bring us another great NewOrder album. That reminds me, does anyone know/think neworder are writing new material while on tour?

how many pounds in one stone?

what size stone?:D

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT

I think I can speak for all US New Order fans when I say DAMMIT!

Fucking hell, now what have I got to look forward to? Oh well, maybe we in the US should start e-mailing the hell out of SNL, Conan O'Brien, Letterman to have NO appear as musical guests. That's the only thing that would help make it better.

Dammit is an understatement Taboo!! I'd rather say GODDAMMIT!!

Indeed, Mario, but I didn't want to offend the children I teach, so I toned it down for their sake. You see, I believe the children are our future....

In all seriousness, let's try and organize a concerted effort to get NO on one of the decent talks shows or even SNL (at least there they can do two songs). Anyone know where to get in touch with the Conan show? Letterman? SNL?

i forbid my children to visit this website because of the dirty language often used

Originally posted by Geaux Hagen Actually, I was thinking they should take a break from the touring. Returning to the US at this point would be self-abusive for our lads. Touring the States is what made Barney crack in the first place right? Plus, we may get a new set of songs for their next trip across the pond (the polluted, stanky pond). Good Luck to NewOrder on the rest of their Aussie tour and may 2002 bring us another great NewOrder album. That reminds me, does anyone know/think neworder are writing new material while on tour?how many pounds in one stone?

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I reckon if they had any (or a bit more) interest in their fans, they'd know about this great website and could have read all about our wishes and complaints! At least they could have altered the setlists a bit, that seems to be the most wanted thing!!

I reckon if they had any (or a bit more) interest in their fans, they'd know about this great website and could have read all about our wishes and complaints! At least they could have altered the setlists a bit, that seems to be the most wanted thing!!

sorry

Just out of interest, has anyone counted the number of US dates they have done compared to Britain or anywhere else since 1986 ?

It may be as high as twice as many in the US as anywhere else......

Originally posted by Geaux Hagen next trip across the pond (the polluted, stanky pond). Good Luck to NewOrder on the rest of their Aussie tour and may 2002 bring us another great NewOrder album. That reminds me, does anyone know/think neworder are writing new material while on tour?

Brian - in a recent(ish) interview with Hooky in a very poor local music mag called Juice, he alluded to the 'return to the studio' post Chem Bros collaboration, around Dec 2002. Could be bollocks, but if it's true and all goes well, we might get another NO album around 2005.... CTD

Not unexpected news concerning the possible US tour dates, and at this point in their career, I can't imagine them writing songs on the road. Still a bit of a bummmer today though.:(

re - Brian - in a recent(ish) interview with Hooky in a very poor local music mag called Juice, he alluded to the 'return to the studio' post Chem Bros collaboration, around Dec 2002. Could be bollocks, but if it's true and all goes well, we might get another NO album around 2005....

he also said in the interview that NO hate going to America and dont like going there very often might be the reason why there not going they may have already decided on this when the interview was done hence his comment on the U.S

Did I mention I saw NO last night and it was the greatest concert I've been too?

Sorry, just teasing.

Saw a interview in some dance music mag where one of the chemical brothers (the tall skinny ex long hair gimpy one I think) said they'd just spent the week in the studio with NO...so that collab may happen in the next few months.

I'd very much doubt if they've written any new material yet

Originally posted by obviously it has to be SUPERMARIO THis sucks...this really sucks

Hey Mario, what's the problem??

Now they have more time to play some EUROPE festivals this summer!!! eh?

Originally posted by Dutch Jim says: NO! > Originally posted by obviously it has to be SUPERMARIO> THis sucks...this really sucks

Hey Mario, what's the problem??

Now they have more time to play some EUROPE festivals this summer!!! eh?

Hey hey DJ you can't go winding them up now !!! You'll piss half the posters off !!! (Which festivals are you hoping for ? ;))

Originally posted by Taras Shevchenko Tabsy...in light of this decision by our heroes, you you really think we should try to influence them at all??? I'm thinking they just don't give a flying fuck about North America...of course...they only did a 3 city tour in the UK, so maybe they just don't really care much about anything anymore...I, for one, am very unhappy right now...but what else is new????

Jeff, can you really blame them after the dismal U.S. sales of GR?

Patrick,

"Jeff, can you really blame them after the dismal U.S. sales of GR?"

The problem is that New Order recieved NO promotion for the new album ( at least here) . It really blows. Nobody but NO fans knew that there was new product to be had.

There were no posters in record stores, there were no ads on the radio, there wasn't jack squat.

And, as much as I DESPISE mtv, they should have made some sort of appearance (or at least VH1. Heck, that's the age demo that listens to NO).

Plus, there was no appearance on late night television. T7 has been all over this and he's right.

Originally posted by Michael McDermott Patrick,"Jeff, can you really blame them after the dismal U.S. sales of GR?"The problem is that New Order recieved NO promotion for the new album ( at least here) . It really blows. Nobody but NO fans knew that there was new product to be had.There were no posters in record stores, there were no ads on the radio, there wasn't jack squat.And, as much as I DESPISE mtv, they should have made some sort of appearance (or at least VH1. Heck, that's the age demo that listens to NO).Plus, there was no appearance on late night television. T7 has been all over this and he's right.

Michael, I completely agree. The "promotion" of GR in the U.S. was nonexistent.

Originally posted by Grigory Rasputin, the mad mystic of Petrograd > Originally posted by Patrick> > > > Originally posted by Taras Shevchenko> > Tabsy...> > > > in light of this decision by our heroes, you you really think we should try to influence them at all??? I'm thinking they just don't give a flying fuck about North America...of course...they only did a 3 city tour in the UK, so maybe they just don't really care much about anything anymore...> > > > I, for one, am very unhappy right now...but what else is new????>

Jeff, can you really blame them after the dismal U.S. sales of GR?

Well...I'm going out on a limb here...but I'd be willing to bet that they sold more units here than in, oh, I don't know, Australia, Germany, France or Sweden...and the order did go to all of these countries after the release of GR, not before...and if they really want to sell lots of copies of GR...all they have to do is release Turn My Way, and appear in a video with Mr. Corgan, and the fooking thing would do quite well...

Jeff, I imagine you're right that GR sold more copies in the U.S. than in Australia, say. But the total population of Australia is like 10 million? And the population of the U.S. is what, 250 million? I have no doubt that on a pro-rata basis, sales were higher there. And it sounds like they actually played GR on the radio there, unlike the U.S.

I totally agree that TMW should be released as a single here. But it hasn't been.