Most Over-rated NO song — Forum Archive

30 May 2007, 02:50

Sorry if this has been done before but I can't find a thread in the browser...

Obviously we all love NewOrder and have been amazed and astounded by their music and development over 25+ years of making bang up tunes. But I wondered if anyone else felt, like me that, just a few too many tunes got the reverential treatment?

Here's a few of my teeth-grinders to get started:

Blue Monday Bizarre Love Triangle Love Vigilantes The Perfect Kiss Face-Up Touched by the hand of God (Possibly the worst song ever committed to vinyl) 60 Miles an Hour and the rest of Get Ready that isn't Crystal...

:scream:

I'm just about to find myself an deep bunker and hide...

30 May 2007, 02:53

True Faith. Bizarre Love Triangle (12") Technique.

That is all. Fact. End of.

:nod:

30 May 2007, 03:01

RichShan wrote: Sorry if this has been done before but I can't find a thread in the browser...

Obviously we all love NewOrder and have been amazed and astounded by their music and development over 25+ years of making bang up tunes. But I wondered if anyone else felt, like me that, just a few too many tunes got the reverential treatment?

Here's a few of my teeth-grinders to get started:

Blue Monday Bizarre Love Triangle Love Vigilantes The Perfect Kiss Face-Up Touched by the hand of God (Possibly the worst song ever committed to vinyl) 60 Miles an Hour and the rest of Get Ready that isn't Crystal...

I'm just about to find myself an deep bunker and hide...

Er, I don't think anyone has EVER been 'reverential' about 60MPH!!??!!

30 May 2007, 03:01

El Jarvo wrote: True Faith. Bizarre Love Triangle (12") Technique.

That is all. Fact. End of.

El Jarvo... The whole of Technique is over-rated? Surely not? You gotta love all those sheep samples on Fine Time

30 May 2007, 03:02

You two want yer heids tested :nod:

LV, BLT, TF, Technique?

Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but fcuk me over the bonce with a big stick and call me Melanie if you two have any taste :viking:

Most Over-rated song?

WIFM. Fac.

:D

30 May 2007, 03:03

Doctor Clayhead... Fair point, I was beginning to struggle for over-rated stuff :)

30 May 2007, 03:04

60mph is a good single. Not great, but good when it's blasting out the speakers in our local :nod:

30 May 2007, 03:04

RichShan wrote: El Jarvo... The whole of Technique is over-rated? Surely not? You gotta love all those sheep samples on Fine Time

Technique (as a concept) is vastly over-rated. The New Order album for people who don't like New Order.

I'll give you the sheep though. Fine Time is the standout track for me, and that bassline at the death, competing with the sheep, is one of the best things Hooky's ever done.

30 May 2007, 03:05

amongst the casual- Blue Monday

I've always thought that Confusion was overrated as well.

30 May 2007, 03:06

ShugZV wrote: You two want yer heids tested

LV, BLT, TF, Technique?

Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but fcuk me over the bonce with a big stick and call me Melanie if you two have any taste

Most Over-rated song?

WIFM. Fac.

:D

ShugZV forgot about WIM. Thanks for the reminder

And I'm down the shrink clinic later for a wee heid test. I think he's going to hold up NO 12" covers and ask me to give a simple Yes/No answer. But that cover to Blue Monday will have me quaking in the corner :laugh:

30 May 2007, 03:06

I'm just waiting for Timbo to make his contribution here and dismiss 50% of everything they've ever done as complete shite.

I do sometimes wonder if the Old Monkey actually likes New Order.....

:evil4:

30 May 2007, 03:07

El Jarvo wrote:

RichShan wrote: El Jarvo... The whole of Technique is over-rated? Surely not? You gotta love all those sheep samples on Fine Time

Technique (as a concept) is vastly over-rated. The New Order album for people who don't like New Order.

Right, that's it Baldy :boxer:

30 May 2007, 03:07

The Perfect Kiss Love Vigilantes Hurt

30 May 2007, 03:08

El Jarvo wrote:

RichShan wrote: El Jarvo... The whole of Technique is over-rated? Surely not? You gotta love all those sheep samples on Fine Time

Technique (as a concept) is vastly over-rated. The New Order album for people who don't like New Order.

I'll give you the sheep though. Fine Time is the standout track for me, and that bassline at the death, competing with the sheep, is one of the best things Hooky's ever done.

Always loved NewOrder and can't help thinking that this is one of their better ones :cry:

30 May 2007, 03:08

RichShan wrote:

ShugZV wrote: You two want yer heids tested

LV, BLT, TF, Technique?

Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but fcuk me over the bonce with a big stick and call me Melanie if you two have any taste

Most Over-rated song?

WIFM. Fac.

:D

ShugZV forgot about WIM. Thanks for the reminder

And I'm down the shrink clinic later for a wee heid test. I think he's going to hold up NO 12" covers and ask me to give a simple Yes/No answer. But that cover to Blue Monday will have me quaking in the corner

Don't start the cover debate, I still cannae believe how many people were pissed off with the WFTSC Album cover

30 May 2007, 03:11

ShugZV wrote:

El Jarvo wrote:

RichShan wrote: El Jarvo... The whole of Technique is over-rated? Surely not? You gotta love all those sheep samples on Fine Time

Technique (as a concept) is vastly over-rated. The New Order album for people who don't like New Order.

Right, that's it Baldy

The truth hurts, Shuglet! :nod:

Now, go swing your pants to Mr Disco. There's a good boy. Woo. Yey.

:viking:

30 May 2007, 03:15

worra bout Republic?

:laugh:

30 May 2007, 03:16

Blue Monday - Not as good as Temptation but gets twenty times the recognition.

Bizarre Love Triangle 12" - A solid fan favourite? Prefer the shorter mixes meself.

Here To Stay - Hyped collaboration that didn't come to much (the yanks seem to lurve it).

World In Motion - :uhoh: Pish.

30 May 2007, 03:17

King John Honest John wrote: worra bout Republic?

Thankfully, doesn't everyone just think it's basically shite?

Which, in itself, is probably being too kind. :evil4:

30 May 2007, 03:17

King John Honest John wrote: worra bout Republic?

A real stinker, except for Regret... Still they got to prance about with the Baywatch crew though! :brow:

30 May 2007, 03:28

(just working out the beat. aahhhh, got it now)

You are a colour and you are a numberWe need a sanction to see one another

:guitar:

30 May 2007, 03:39

Doctor Clayhead wrote: I'm just waiting for Timbo to make his contribution here and dismiss 50% of everything they've ever done as complete shite.

I do sometimes wonder if the Old Monkey actually likes New Order.....

Most of the stuff they've done isn't rated enough by the majority of people, certainly not commercially.

Sure, there is stuff I don't much care for, but not stuff I think is over-rated. I only care about my own ratings of stuff, so what anyone else thinks of as over-rated is pretty much irrelevant to me!

30 May 2007, 03:42

fookit it's oldmonkey again wrote:

Doctor Clayhead wrote: I'm just waiting for Timbo to make his contribution here and dismiss 50% of everything they've ever done as complete shite.

I do sometimes wonder if the Old Monkey actually likes New Order.....

Most of the stuff they've done isn't rated enough by the majority of people, certainly not commercially.

Sure, there is stuff I don't much care for, but not stuff I think is over-rated. I only care about my own ratings of stuff, so what anyone else thinks of as over-rated is pretty much irrelevant to me!

That's very diplomatic, Timbo!

So I say: SUNRISE.

It's vacuous, sub-Cure rip-off tripe for sweaty boys who really just need to have a wank.

There. I've said it.

30 May 2007, 03:51

Dare I say Temptation?

Having said that I would listen to anything of theirs before other bands

30 May 2007, 03:52

Doctor Clayhead wrote: So I say: SUNRISE.

It's vacuous, sub-Cure rip-off tripe for sweaty boys who really just need to have a wank.

There. I've said it.

What, and that's a negative thing, is it? :scratch:

30 May 2007, 03:56

El Jarvo wrote:

Technique (as a concept) is vastly over-rated. The New Order album for people who don't like New Order.

Jarvo - I respect your knowledge and history but that statement is just complete and utter bollocks. :skeptic:

30 May 2007, 03:57

Temptation

It's been dull as rancid dishwater ever since it went "digital" in the mid 80's YAWWWWWWWWN

30 May 2007, 04:03

Rorschach wrote:

El Jarvo wrote:

Technique (as a concept) is vastly over-rated. The New Order album for people who don't like New Order.

Jarvo - I respect your knowledge and history but that statement is just complete and utter bollocks.

Weeellll, we need a lil' bit of controversy around here! :nod:

It's also music for lads with small dicks! :uhoh:

30 May 2007, 04:04

Doctor? wrote: Temptation

It's been dull as rancid dishwater ever since it went "digital" in the mid 80's YAWWWWWWWWN

100% in agreement. Give me the old ARP Quadra ticking that arpeggiator out anyday...

Substance versions of Temptation and Confusion are pretty poor too

30 May 2007, 04:05

Rorschach wrote:

El Jarvo wrote:

Technique (as a concept) is vastly over-rated. The New Order album for people who don't like New Order.

Jarvo - I respect your knowledge and history but that statement is just complete and utter bollocks.

I dunno, I'm rather inclined to agree with Jarvo. A load of fuss is always made about Technique as being the pinnacle, but at least half of it is filler and it really hasn't aged well. It's the only one they used synth and drum sounds on that sound really dated now, and I think their own thoughts on the record can be gauged by the fact they dropped everything off it in 1993 (most of it didn't survive the 89 tour) besides playing the only one they hadn't done live before at a couple of 98 shows.