The Glasgow DVD includes an ad for the reissues which says "Remastered and expanded in a 2 disc set with non-album singles, b-sides, remixes, new liner notes and more!"
Could it be we might actually get some satisfactory product?
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Not in the UK version :\ohwell:
Sounds a bit shite tho',non-album singles & b-sides that we've all probably got 10-fold on the various 'best of's',& remixes that are usually an insult to the originals( altho' in the case of Shitstream,an improvement).So,basically,other than the remaster,nothing fookin' new,or of interest.Let's not be hasty & jump the gun tho',but if it's true,well fookin' done Warners.Did we not point you in the direction of the Bunnymen & Cure reissues? Feck 
Aries wrote: The Glasgow DVD includes an ad for the reissues which says "Remastered and expanded in a 2 disc set with non-album singles, b-sides, remixes, new liner notes and more!"
Could it be we might actually get some satisfactory product?
All the more power to warner if they follow the Depeche Mode remaster style. A dvd full of extras would make my day, since I can extract and such. I do hope the republic bsides are missing, they were crap.
I assume it's going to be like the Cure reissues, which is fine by me. I can extract DVD audio too, but I always thought the idea of putting the DM b-sides on a DVD instead of CD was a bit daft.
Oh and speaking of the Cure reissues, I want to give a big *FU* to Warner for being "politically correct" and leaving Killing an Arab off the remaster of Three Imaginary Boys. No big deal, right? It was only their FIRST SINGLE, therefore one of the most important songs of their career! But we can't risk offending people!
Twats.
Aries wrote: I assume it's going to be like the Cure reissues, which is fine by me. I can extract DVD audio too, but I always thought the idea of putting the DM b-sides on a DVD instead of CD was a bit daft.
Oh and speaking of the Cure reissues, I want to give a big *FU* to Warner for being "politically correct" and leaving Killing an Arab off the remaster of Three Imaginary Boys. No big deal, right? It was only their FIRST SINGLE, therefore one of the most important songs of their career! But we can't risk offending people!
Twats.
Thats what we get with the insanity of political correctness here in the states. Thats like leaving off pictures of you and fascination street off disintegration because they werent on the greatest hits.
Aries wrote: Oh and speaking of the Cure reissues, I want to give a big *FU* to Warner for being "politically correct" and leaving Killing an Arab off the remaster of Three Imaginary Boys. No big deal, right? It was only their FIRST SINGLE, therefore one of the most important songs of their career! But we can't risk offending people!
Erm, hate to burst your bubble, but Killing An Arab wasn't on the album. It's the original Fiction Records LP remastered, not the US version or anything else. Killing An Arab was a 7" and didn't appear on an album until the label cobbled together Boys Don't Cry in order to include Arab and Boys on one record and lob off some of the weaker tracks from the debut.
Nice try, though.
£50 Note wrote:
Aries wrote: Oh and speaking of the Cure reissues, I want to give a big *FU* to Warner for being "politically correct" and leaving Killing an Arab off the remaster of Three Imaginary Boys. No big deal, right? It was only their FIRST SINGLE, therefore one of the most important songs of their career! But we can't risk offending people!
Erm, hate to burst your bubble, but Killing An Arab wasn't on the album. It's the original Fiction Records LP remastered, not the US version or anything else. Killing An Arab was a 7" and didn't appear on an album until the label cobbled together Boys Don't Cry in order to include Arab and Boys on one record and lob off some of the weaker tracks from the debut.
Nice try, though.
And Charlotte Sometimes wasn't on Faith, but it was included on the Faith remasters. Pretty obvious omission of Killing an Arab, especially when World War, Jumping Someone Else's Train, and Boys Don't Cry were all included in the TIB remaster when they didn't appear on the original version. To include two of the singles repackaged on Boys Don't Cry but not the third seems suspect.
It makes you wonder how we'll ever get a remastered, good sounding Killing An Arab, short of a remastered "Standing By The Beach", which I'd be in favor of since it was my first Cure cd.
And it even came with a sticker explaining the song!
£50 Note wrote: Erm, hate to burst your bubble, but Killing An Arab wasn't on the album. It's the original Fiction Records LP remastered, not the US version or anything else. Killing An Arab was a 7" and didn't appear on an album until the label cobbled together Boys Don't Cry in order to include Arab and Boys on one record and lob off some of the weaker tracks from the debut.
Nice try, though.
As the folks above pointed out, I was referring to the second disc of the reissue, which collected non-album tracks from the period. Perhaps I should have been more clear on that.
Aries wrote: As the folks above pointed out, I was referring to the second disc of the reissue, which collected non-album tracks from the period. Perhaps I should have been more clear on that.
In that sense, yes, it's a glaring omission.
Well, to get back on topic, does anyone think i'll finally be able to own a real version of run 2? Now with these remasters, it would be pointless for them to exclude the original temptation, confusion run 2, and other songs only seen on singles and such.
Suffice to say that a fair amount is going on behind the scenes to deliver the sort of product we all want, as a fitting end. They have listened to constructive suggestions...
And another thing, did anyone else who bought the US DVD notice on the flyer that Republic was included. So it's not going to be just the factory years!
Yeah, in Hooky's latest interview (posted in another thread) he said they're doing all the albums.
Aries wrote: I assume it's going to be like the Cure reissues, which is fine by me. I can extract DVD audio too, but I always thought the idea of putting the DM b-sides on a DVD instead of CD was a bit daft.
Oh and speaking of the Cure reissues, I want to give a big *FU* to Warner for being "politically correct" and leaving Killing an Arab off the remaster of Three Imaginary Boys. No big deal, right? It was only their FIRST SINGLE, therefore one of the most important songs of their career! But we can't risk offending people!
Twats.
Yup, that's America for you. Too much PC in this country. Had it been titled "Killing a Straight White Male", it MAY have been permissible.
To my further astonishment, I saw the Cure on their current tour and the lyric was changed to "killing another."
Oh Robert, how could you?
Aries wrote: The Glasgow DVD includes an ad for the reissues which says "Remastered and expanded in a 2 disc set with non-album singles, b-sides, remixes, new liner notes and more!"
Could it be we might actually get some satisfactory product?
Not sure. Have a look at http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/
...and you'll see this:
28 June 2008 ReOrdered
Peter Hook confirms that the remastered New Order Factory-era albums (Movement, Power Corruption & Lies, Low-Life, Brotherhood, Technique) are finished (at least on the mastering side of things) and will appear this September & October. (Initial release date for the first titles is September 22.) They will follow the same concept as the recent Warner Joy Division remasters: 2 discs, one being the album, the other being a live show from that era.
If they add live shows the reissues will be very interesting then there's a point in buying them. Just having them remastered after all the compilations isn't a trigger. So please add live shows!!!!
Disappointing if true.
There are a myriad of non-album/vinyl only tracks which would have made these re-releases very very worthwhile and made up in some way for the complete scrapping of Gretton's "Recycle" idea. Shoving on a few random live shows is a bit shite, frankly. We've all got the bootlegs, the live DVDs etc so it really was time for the b-sides and rarer alternate mixes to get a decent reissue
Fully remastered and complete 12" versions of TPK, Hurt etc?
Not this time it would seem.
Mind you, never really expected Warners to come out with something like this. They should really have requested input from those fans who know the discography pretty well. I'm sure most people would have done it for free 
Ok - maybe they could make new recordings of all the songs then? Another reason to get in to the studio - like Peel Sessions, even the B-sides and the remixes??
David Gladwin wrote:
Aries wrote: The Glasgow DVD includes an ad for the reissues which says "Remastered and expanded in a 2 disc set with non-album singles, b-sides, remixes, new liner notes and more!"
Could it be we might actually get some satisfactory product?
Not sure. Have a look at http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/
...and you'll see this:
28 June 2008 ReOrdered
Peter Hook confirms that the remastered New Order Factory-era albums (Movement, Power Corruption & Lies, Low-Life, Brotherhood, Technique) are finished (at least on the mastering side of things) and will appear this September & October. (Initial release date for the first titles is September 22.) They will follow the same concept as the recent Warner Joy Division remasters: 2 discs, one being the album, the other being a live show from that era.
which ties in exactly with what nic said in the thread about htis before.
Could it be that the UK and US reissues will be different? Make us spend twice as much money, right? For now I'm going to go with the DVD insert.
Not sure what was the point of that last post - maybe I'm missing something.
What definitely is fucking missing is Substance 1987 from the remaster schedule.
How fucking dare they!!? So that's no nice crisp versions of Temptation, Confusion, Perfect Kiss, True Faith, Hurt, Cries and Whispers, In a Lonely Place, and 1963.
Ask most people on this site and reckon a great deal would say that clean and clear remastered versions of these classic tracks in New Order's resume were fucking ESSENTIAL!.
"But we can't remaster Substance, because then we'd have to remaster The Best Of, International, and Singles"
No you fucking wouldn't, Substance was different - it was tasteful and essential collection of classic 12" mixes and B-sides which captured the sublime transformation of the band, not a tasteless, pointless cash-in thought up greedy record execs determined to bleed the back catalogue dry of all its fucking integrity.
I may be wrong, and maybe it is coming out, in which case I take all that back.
While I agree Substance is essential and should have been included in the remasters I wouldn't so much have minded if they'd done what the Glasgow DVD advert hinted at I.e. 2 CD "expanded" versions of each album with the all non-album/single/12" versions in chronological order on the second disc.
But from the sounds of things, they haven't.
Not to mention that Joy Division's Substance was not included in their remasters so basically, it's more than likely we won't be getting New Order's one in this lot.
Nick King wrote: Don't worry, they'll do another best of!
As sure as night follows day 
But it's understandable why some people are disappointed. Reissues along the lines of say, the Pet Shop Boys one would've been most New Order fanatic's wet dream. Just seems to be another opportunity pissed up the wall.
I'm beginning to think that bar the albums and "well known" tracks the label and/or the band have mislaid the master tapes 
Ally wrote:
Nick King wrote: Don't worry, they'll do another best of!
As sure as night follows day
But it's understandable why some people are disappointed. Reissues along the lines of say, the Pet Shop Boys one would've been most New Order fanatic's wet dream. Just seems to be another opportunity pissed up the wall.
I'm beginning to think that bar the albums and "well known" tracks the label and/or the band have mislaid the master tapes
I've mentioned the Pet Shop Boys reissues before. Mainly due to the fact that they're fucking spot on. I'm not an obsessive PSB fan, but I've bought at least four of these albums because they're just great - the booklet gives the listener a fantastic insight to the stories behind the album and the tracks, and then there's the B-side discs which pretty much include everything.
Surely Barney, given his working relationship with Pet Shop Boys must have looked at these and thought 'yeah - this is what we should do'.
Actually, I blame Hooky - it's probably him that wants a bloody live disc
I don't need little stories about songs from Barney. The vagueness and mystery is part of NO's charm.
Vagueness and mystery or just accident and bad management?
They're in their fucking 50s - it's about time they pulled back the curtain more.
Besides, they're not exactly the Residents or Throbbing Gristle are they?
They got to No1 in the UK with a football song with the England National team, they regularly appeared on Top of the Pops, Barney appeared on a TV documentary about Prozac, Hooky was the house band for the Mrs Merton Show, and Stephen and Gillian made music for BBC programmes, and they've been played by actors in two relatively mainstream (if a tad arty) films.
Call that mystery do you?
