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Quote: WE WANT ALL OF THE TRACKS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT ON CD BEFORE. Please.

Exactly.

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Aries wrote: To my further astonishment, I saw the Cure on their current tour and the lyric was changed to "killing another."

Oh Robert, how could you?:nonono:

here's why

Indeed!

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the cure must be pretty shit these days they were fucking awful back in the eighties, new order covers band!

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Michael Monkhouse wrote: Quote: WE WANT ALL OF THE TRACKS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT ON CD BEFORE. Please.

Exactly.

personally i do not like all the various reissue shit, smacks of big record company BS, ironic really - a singles a single an albums an album, catch my drift...

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If they really MUST stick a live gig of the period on the second CD then why the hell can they not use the spare space on the first CD to stick on the extra bits and bobs (B-sides, full length 12" mixes, unreleased stuff) instead of wasting it in this way by just having the original studio album?

After all every one of these five Factory studio albums is no more than 40 minutes anyway - which gives you another near-40 minutes to fill up goddammit!

For goodness sakes, for too long now we have had half measures and half-hearted compromises from Warners re: New Order's reissue programme. If the appalling wasted opportunities that are the execrable "Retro" and "International" are anything to go by, you'd think they'd have learned their lesson the hard way, judging by the wave of righteous indignation from many fan circles (not to mention the feeling of being repeatedly fleeced).

:banghead: :uhoh: :rolleyes:

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Is there a definitive date for when they're due out, or is it still all speculation?

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Tim wrote: Read the interview above for something about the bonus material....

What interview above :confused2:

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I can't wait for these bloody remasters!

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Tim wrote: Just been talking to someone involved with the remasters - expect some fucking brilliant stuff, stuff you've never heard, that's all I am gonna say.

:abovelol:

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Whoops!

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Tim wrote: Just been talking to someone involved with the remasters - expect some fucking brilliant stuff, stuff you've never heard, that's all I am gonna say.

That's pretty good news, but why is HMV Japan announcing this so NOT-"some fucking brilliant stuff, stuff you've never heard, that's all I am gonna say." ????

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Igor wrote:

Tim wrote: Just been talking to someone involved with the remasters - expect some fucking brilliant stuff, stuff you've never heard, that's all I am gonna say.

That's pretty good news, but why is HMV Japan announcing this so NOT-"some fucking brilliant stuff, stuff you've never heard, that's all I am gonna say." ????

It's now possible, based on what Hooky said in the recent interview, to read between the lines of Tim's earlier post about an "outlet" for other recordings and predict that the "good stuff" that only hardcore fans care about would be delivered via a New Order-run website: one where people close to the band have control and active involvement.

Imagine, over time, the full extent of the band's tape archives being offered for purchase by download without the cost overhead of manufacturing CDs. Suppose there were (makes up numbers) 20,000 hardcore fans worldwide who would cough up 2 quid each for a reasonable quality audio recording of a gig, or 5 quid each for a rare live video or set of previously unheard demos. If the rights are available (I don't know how it works), they could eventually have every single track, every remix, every last rehearsal tape available at a reasonable price for the obsessive fan. That's probably a much better option for the band than trying to get a record company to press up physical discs for a limited audience.

Peter

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PhilBarnes wrote:

Igor wrote:

Tim wrote: Just been talking to someone involved with the remasters - expect some fucking brilliant stuff, stuff you've never heard, that's all I am gonna say.

That's pretty good news, but why is HMV Japan announcing this so NOT-"some fucking brilliant stuff, stuff you've never heard, that's all I am gonna say." ????

It's now possible, based on what Hooky said in the recent interview, to read between the lines of Tim's earlier post about an "outlet" for other recordings and predict that the "good stuff" that only hardcore fans care about would be delivered via a New Order-run website: one where people close to the band have control and active involvement.

Imagine, over time, the full extent of the band's tape archives being offered for purchase by download without the cost overhead of manufacturing CDs. Suppose there were (makes up numbers) 20,000 hardcore fans worldwide who would cough up 2 quid each for a reasonable quality audio recording of a gig, or 5 quid each for a rare live video or set of previously unheard demos. If the rights are available (I don't know how it works), they could eventually have every single track, every remix, every last rehearsal tape available at a reasonable price for the obsessive fan. That's probably a much better option for the band than trying to get a record company to press up physical discs for a limited audience.

Peter

OK but those demos and rarities deserve a proper remaster and the quality of a dowmload has nothing to do with the release of a cd! Are fans prepared to pay for demos or a concert which quality would be just above the bootlegs they already own? :scratch:

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