Remasters redux

If we never hear anything from Warners soon (and that will be within THIS month!): please fire it off! We were suckered long enough by them.

£50 Note wrote:

michael brunt wrote: Are these available for d/l anywhere???

Heck, I'd gladly donate somewhere for these..

It's on the downlow at the moment, but if Rhino doesn't fix the mistakes before A US release of these "remasters", it will become very public.

I'm kinda hoping they don't fix anything - from reading through this thread there's no way they'll release anything anywhere near as good as your project/proposal

£50 Note wrote:

michael brunt wrote: Are these available for d/l anywhere???

Heck, I'd gladly donate somewhere for these..

It's on the downlow at the moment, but if Rhino doesn't fix the mistakes before A US release of these "remasters", it will become very public.

Thanks £50 as a lomgtime fan who hasn't bought the 2 disc sets because of the problems I'd love to hear a "proper" version.

I'll buy the US CDs if it is those or DL yours if it isn't.

Good work.

I can't believe I'm actually going to write this:

Great restoration job 50 quid ;)

I usually underestimate these things...

Looking foward to hear the final version... in FLAC obviously.

Ps: OK Rock the shack is ass. How about Working Overtime??????????????? Am I the only one in the world who thinks it SUCKS THE MOST?

PeteZarustica wrote:

Ps: OK Rock the shack is ass. How about Working Overtime??????????????? Am I the only one in the world who thinks it SUCKS THE MOST?

no, you are not alone...

Colin Simpson wrote:

PeteZarustica wrote:

Ps: OK Rock the shack is ass. How about Working Overtime??????????????? Am I the only one in the world who thinks it SUCKS THE MOST?

no, you are not alone...

And no, no...there's more out there who think it's utter piss-poor

DigitalWaters wrote:

£50 Note wrote: Fug it.

If London/Warners isn't going to listen then I'll tackle this project myself. A good friend who is an audio restoration master and fellow New Order fan is going to team up with me to compile our own 2xCD remasters.

Here's how they'll look:

Movement

Disc One (52:17):

1. Dreams Never End
2. Truth
3. Senses
4. Chosen Time
5. ICB
6. The Him
7. Doubts Even Here
8. Denial (10 seconds of silence)
9. Truth (Peel Session 26 Jan '81)
10. Senses (Peel Session 26 Jan '81)
11. ICB (Peel Session 26 Jan '81)
12. Dreams Never End (Peel Session 26 Jan '81)

Disc Two (58:01):

1. Homage (Stephen vocal - Western Works demo)
2. Ceremony (1st version)
3. In A Lonely Place
4. Ceremony (2nd version)
5. Procession
6. Everything's Gone Green
7. Cries & Whispers
8. Mesh
9. Temptation (original 12" version)
10. Hurt (full 12" version)
11. Rocking Carol (Hacienda Christmas flexi)
12. Ode To Joy (Hacienda Christmas flexi)

Power, Corruption & Lies

Disc One (76:39):

1. Age Of Consent
2. We All Stand
3. The Village
4. 5 8 6
5. Your Silent Face
6. Ultraviolence
7. Ecstasy
8. Leave Me Alone (10 seconds of silence)
9. Blue Monday
10. The Beach
11. Turn The Heater On (Peel Session 1 June '82)
12. We All Stand (Peel Session 1 June '82)
13. Too Late (Peel Session 1 June '82)
14. 5 8 6 (Peel Session 1 June '82)

Disc Two (72:53):

1. Video 5 8 6
2. Confusion (original 12" version)
3. Confused Beats
4. Confusion Instrumental
5. Confusion Rough Mix
6. Thieves Like Us
7. Lonesome Tonight
8. Murder
9. Thieves LIke Us (12" Instrumental mix)

Lowlife

Disc One (57:23):

1. Love Vigilantes
2. The Perfect Kiss
3. This Time Of Night
4. Sunrise
5. Elegia
6. Sooner Than You Think
7. Subculture
8. Face Up (10 seconds of silence)
9. The Perfect Kiss (full 12" version)
10. Kiss Of Death
11. Perfect Pit

Disc Two (77:00):

1. Subculture (Record Mirror exclusive mix)
2. Subculture (12" remix)
3. Dubvulture (12" dub mix)
4. Shellshock (original mix)
5. Shellshock (full 12" remix)
6. Shellcock (12" dub mix)
7. Elegia (full-length version)
8. Sunrise (Discreet Campaigns instrumental mix)
9. The Perfect Kiss (live video shoot alternate take)

Brotherhood

Disc One (57:32):

1. Paradise
2. Weirdo
3. As It Was When It Was
4. Broken Promise
5. Way Of LIfe
6. Bizarre Love Triangle
7. All Day Long
8. Angel Dust
9. Every Little Counts (10 seconds of silence)
10. State Of The Nation
11. Shame Of The Nation

Disc Two (68:14)

1. Bizarre Love Triangle (Stephen Hague 7")
2. Bizarre Love Triangle (12" remix)
3. Bizarre Dub Triangle
4. True Faith
5. 1963
6. True Faith (full 12" remix)
7. Evil Dust
8. Paradise (Robert Racic 12")
9. Salvation Theme (from Salvation!)
10. Touched By The Hand Of God (from Salvation!)
11. Let's Go (from Salvation!)
12. Sputnik (from Salvation!)
13. Skullcrusher (from Salvation!)
14. Touched By The Hand Of God (12" remix)

Substance 1981-1990: The Factory Years

Disc One (58:11):

1. Ceremony (2nd version)
2. Procession
3. Everything's Gone Green
4. Temptation ('87 re-record)
5. Blue Monday
6. Confusion ('87 re-record)
7. Thieves Like Us
8. Murder
9. The Perfect Kiss (full 12" version)
10. Subculture (12" remix)

Disc Two (65:25):

1. Shellshock (full 12" remix)
2. State Of The Nation
3. Bizarre Love Triangle (12" remix)
4. True Faith
5. Touched By The Hand Of God (12" remix)
6. Blue Monday '88 (12" version)
7. Fine Time (Silk Mix)
8. Round & Round (Twelve Inch Mix)
9. Run 2 (Extended Version)
10. World In Motion (Carabinieri Mix)

Technique

Disc One (53:13):

1. Fine Time
2. All The Way
3. Loveless
4. Round & Round
5. Guilty Partner
6. Run
7. Mr. Disco
8. Vanishing Point
9. Dream Attack (10 seconds of silence)
10. Fine Time (12" alternate mix)
11. Don't Do It
12. Fine Line

Disc Two (62:32):

1. Blue Monday '88 (12" version)
2. Beach Buggy
3. Round & Round (12" Mix)
4. Round & Round (Club Mix)
5. Best & Marsh (full 12" version)
6. Vanishing Point (Instrumental Making Out Mix)
7. Run 2
8. Run 2 (Extended Version)
9. MTO
10. MTO (Minus Mix)
11. The Happy One
12. World In Motion

I've avoided the 7" edits since they can mostly be found on the Singles compilation. I've also skipped many redundant remixes that don't really add anything new.

My versions will not be compressed to hell, sacrificing dynamics for loudness.

I'll also be tackling Republic and Get Ready, the latter of which I'm going to completely overhaul, resequencing the album and bringing it closer to the advance promos the record label sent out.

Again; Warners should have you on the payroll!!!

Dunno how far u are with the work but i sure do hope that i can get my hand on this stuff! bloody excellent

Can't wait to hear the final result, count me in

Fingers Crossed.

can't wait

We didn't hear anything from Warners about the fraud that the remasters are, did we ?! I certainly didn't hear anything from my email to them posted in early October ... Is there anyone out there who send an email and got a reply this month from them ?!

Let's fire this remasters redux-project off tomorrow november 1st.

I hope there's some way to get this for those of us that have been quietly coming to this forum for years. I'd be very interested and unless the US reissues are corrected, I'm not expecting to pick them up.

Luke wrote: Let's fire this remasters redux-project off tomorrow november 1st.

tomorrow it's ready ?

bc2323 wrote:

Luke wrote: Let's fire this remasters redux-project off tomorrow november 1st.

tomorrow it's ready ?

Whoo hoo!

M1 wrote:

bc2323 wrote:

Luke wrote: Let's fire this remasters redux-project off tomorrow november 1st.

tomorrow it's ready ?

Whoo hoo!

Umm, no. The fellow who asked that it be fired off on November 1st isn't involved in the project in any way.

It's not going to be finished for a while, so everyone calm down. I've just gone through a wedding, moving, and a promotion at my job. The three of us working on it live in three different cities and two different countries. It's going to take time, because we want it done right. This is a very time and labor-intensive project that will take months to complete.

No matter what anyone in these forums says, it's not ready until you hear it from me. You just have to wait.

Jeb - good point, we waited ages for the warners 'remaster' n they were shit, so we'll wait twice as long if were gonna get the dogs bollocks -

And it's worth the wait anyway Carry on

This is actually worth waiting for, since the five European remasters I have make nice coasters now.

Amazing job, £50 Note.

I've just slotted them into my Substance track list and they sound great!

Fascinating about your notes about the restorations, too.

Any updates on this project?

Yeh Jeb, du get this project started or put it on back burner? work commitments..... looks like Warners are not arsed about the remastered remasters

any update on this? and what about the official versions that warners is releasing? and i just tried to download the two samples and i just got some text. anyway you could reupload those?

I was wondering how I have missed this thread. The tracklists are much better than Warners. Count me in for an order of the "50 Pound Note Remasters."

me too(?). if it happens.

Yes...bump me too, please. I contacted Rhino and they said they were releasing the new discs soon, but they would contact me so they could send replacements.

just come across this thread.

What's the latest news on this project? It sounds like a terrific idea as most record comapny 'redux' efforts are pretty shit - witness the Gary Numan 'Replicas' one for instance.

Best of luck with this. I'd certainly be interested in buying the 1st 3 albums done your way.

Bill Davies wrote: just come across this thread. What's the latest news on this project?

Any progress?