Were they though?
their image was very nazi, and i read that Ian voted for the Conservative party, isn't that the English Nazi party?
Anyway, their music is the best, i think they invented it dudes! 
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Curtis80 wrote: i read that Ian voted for the Conservative party, isn't that the English Nazi party?
youre quite correct there...
No, because most of the Nazi's were hung at the Nuremburg Trials (or escaped to Peru). So to be a genuine Nazi in 1979 you'd have to be a least 62 years old. You may be alluding to the Nazi "symbolism" in Joy Division's music and sleeve art, and some casual throwaway remarks made in an interview (pop stars do make things up having had the same questions asked them seventeen times in a day eg The Vapours "Turning Japanese " is not about masturbation) Anyway, naming your band after a book by Yehiel De-Nur doesn't make you a Fascist. Or perhaps they were a piss-taking bunch of chancers who liked to wind up narrow minded bigots . It's what were good at oop-North.
and i read that Ian voted for the Conservative party, isn't that the English Nazi party? Yes and after tea with the Queen on Sunday, we all goto basements in Soho to indulge in sado-masochistic sex sessions with prostitutes . Ooop, sorry, thats just Max Moseley
in the words of Alan Partridge"..I mean I could go on" and " needless to say, I had the last laugh"
pure_shaw wrote:
and i read that Ian voted for the Conservative party, isn't that the English Nazi party? Yes and after tea with the Queen on Sunday, we all goto basements in Soho to indulge in sado-masochistic sex sessions with prostitutes . Ooop, sorry, thats just Max Moseley
in the words of Alan Partridge"..I mean I could go on" and " needless to say, I had the last laugh"
The Conservatives did gas thousands of miners between 1984-85 in death camps, but you won't find that in many history books!
I thought most working class folk in the north of England were Nazis, i saw the documentary about the BNP fighting all the Muslim dudes in Blackburn, and Skrewdriver were part of the Manchester scene yeah?
I am shocked to hear about the extermination of the miners, totally shocked dude! That must have been a drag for their kids. I'm just glad i live in the free world, Britain and Europe seem so medieval man!
Who is Alan Partridge? Is he in Margaret Thatcher's cabinet?
Curtis80 wrote: i read that Ian voted for the Conservative party, isn't that the English Nazi party?
Mentally Deficient Cock? You're not wrong...
I remember hearing a quote somewhere regarding stupidity...and that mute stupidity is more bearable than outspoken stupidity...
not only that, but Bernard still has a Confederate Flag on his guitar.....
he hates jews and blacks.
Tarbox23 wrote: not only that, but Bernard still has a Confederate Flag on his guitar.....
he hates jews and blacks.
But aren't there users on here that have that same flag as their user icon?
There must be a lot of neo-Nazis in here...(I'm not talking about NO)
leather_girl wrote:
Tarbox23 wrote: not only that, but Bernard still has a Confederate Flag on his guitar.....
he hates jews and blacks.
But aren't there users on here that have that same flag as their user icon? There must be a lot of neo-Nazis in here...(I'm not talking about NO)
Well, now's not maybe the time to bring it up, but, not many of us come from places that were on their side
(I kid)
Doctor? wrote:
leather_girl wrote:
Tarbox23 wrote: not only that, but Bernard still has a Confederate Flag on his guitar.....
he hates jews and blacks.
But aren't there users on here that have that same flag as their user icon? There must be a lot of neo-Nazis in here...(I'm not talking about NO)
Well, now's not maybe the time to bring it up, but, not many of us come from places that were on their side
(I kid)
Too bad I wasn't born before 1945....I was only born in 1987, you know?
leather_girl wrote:
Doctor? wrote:
leather_girl wrote:
Tarbox23 wrote: not only that, but Bernard still has a Confederate Flag on his guitar.....
he hates jews and blacks.
But aren't there users on here that have that same flag as their user icon? There must be a lot of neo-Nazis in here...(I'm not talking about NO)
Well, now's not maybe the time to bring it up, but, not many of us come from places that were on their side
(I kid)
Too bad I wasn't born before 1945....I was only born in 1987, you know?
Damnit! That means that not only can I not blame you for WWII, but I can't pin the DX7 (Japan's greatest post-war sin) on you either.
Soooooooo obvious "Curtis80" is an existing NOOLer trying to be a funny fcuker.
Who is it then... answers on a postcard!
Dude! 
Curtis80 wrote: i read that Ian voted for the Conservative party, isn't that the English Nazi party?
mmmmmm,did ian take the nazi self pity a bit too far by hanging himself out of sympathy? did he realy buy his boots from "jacks" in prestbury high street?why was he so interested in the bollington young conservative movement,,,was recording unknown pleasures in stockport a cover for visits to the blue pig in hazel grove??, he was definatley spotted on a 192 on several occasions, there is soo much info out there im surprised no one has suggested a musical or at the very least a film on the subject.
just how or why ill never understand
79 order wrote: mmmmmm,did ian take the nazi self pity a bit too far by hanging himself out of sympathy? did he realy buy his boots from "jacks" in prestbury high street?why was he so interested in the bollington young conservative movement,,,was recording unknown pleasures in stockport a cover for visits to the blue pig in hazel grove??, he was definatley spotted on a 192 on several occasions, there is soo much info out there im surprised no one has suggested a musical or at the very least a film on the subject.
just how or why ill never understand
Dude, theres been like 3 films about Joy Division.... There was talk of a musical in another thread, but apparently Paul Young won't give permission to let them use 'Love will tear us apart' as it's the centerpiece for 'Come back & Stay- The Paul Young Story', currently being directed by the Coen Brothers. :p
Tarbox23 wrote: not only that, but Bernard still has a Confederate Flag on his guitar.....
he hates jews and blacks.
Indeed, I had to threat him with me gun to get the photo and an autograph 
noorder wrote:
Curtis80 wrote: i read that Ian voted for the Conservative party, isn't that the English Nazi party?
Mentally Deficient Cock? You're not wrong...
..and would he please f*ck of back to mojo!
Mr. Disco wrote:
Tarbox23 wrote: not only that, but Bernard still has a Confederate Flag on his guitar.....
he hates jews and blacks.
Indeed, I had to threat him with me gun to get the photo and an autograph
but he hung you right after the picture was taken...no???
Curtis80 wrote: Were they though? their image was very nazi, and i read that Ian voted for the Conservative party, isn't that the English Nazi party? Anyway, their music is the best, i think they invented it dudes!
I think we have competition for Liam as resident NOOL twat.
curtis 80 wrote" there been 3 films about joy division"
Are you sure m8 ,, ?they compleated the soundtrack to the sound of music, other than that im not sure , how did you reference this stuff 
you take your place
They did 'The Sound of Music'? That's rad! They clearly had a very broad sound.
Was it them who played the nazis in the film? Did Gillian play Julie Andrews?
Dude!!! 
Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:
Mr. Disco wrote:
Tarbox23 wrote: not only that, but Bernard still has a Confederate Flag on his guitar.....
he hates jews and blacks.
Indeed, I had to threat him with me gun to get the photo and an autograph
but he hung you right after the picture was taken...no???
'Course he did... I'd shot the buggers head if he refused, you can tell I've scared the sh!t out off him by the look in his eyes
LiamShed wrote:
Curtis80 wrote: Were they though? their image was very nazi, and i read that Ian voted for the Conservative party, isn't that the English Nazi party? Anyway, their music is the best, i think they invented it dudes!
I think we have competition for Liam as resident NOOL twat.
Only I think that Liam does it better! :D
pure_shaw wrote: No, because most of the Nazi's were hung at the Nuremburg Trials (or escaped to Peru).
... or live in Germany as your neighbour with a normal life. Someone found out this week, an old man, who lives in Duisburg, killed as a soldier a jew a few days before the end of the war, because this jew was tired and couldn't walk anymore. He is now accused.
Could never really believe how people from a hot sunny country could be into Joy Division.They were/ are partly about being from cold, desolate, dark Britain.Not some sunny Florida state.Or Virgin Islands.Having said that my first experience of Unknown Pleasures was listening to it on those hot balmy nights of summer 1984.So maybe there is an argument for genuinely associating with Curtis while lying on a Thailand beach.
Mr. Disco wrote:
Tarbox23 wrote: not only that, but Bernard still has a Confederate Flag on his guitar.....
he hates jews and blacks.
Indeed, I had to threat him with me gun to get the photo and an autograph
Vikings confirm mine, please
Mr. Disco wrote:
Tarbox23 wrote: not only that, but Bernard still has a Confederate Flag on his guitar.....
he hates jews and blacks.
Indeed, I had to threat him with me gun to get the photo and an autograph
Post of the month, that one 
Some say...that Macclesfield Con. Club is modelled on the castle in Escape From Colditz. The real Nazis were obviously Spandau Ballet ,I mean for heavens sake, naming yourself after a prison for that lovely man Rudolf Hess. To quote Lemmy (who collects war memorabilia) " I'm not a Nazi, it's just they had the better uniforms", and his alternative pension is nice and safe unlike mine.
Joy Division were certainly not Nazis or even Neo-Nazis. That's utter crap.
But let's bring it home, guys.
Let's think, how many of us are not infatuated with swastikas, Hitler's speech, NSDAP emblematics and uniforms? We are fascinated by that spark of militarist design creativity and, being so far removed from the atrocities of the war, we feel quite comfortable. Many of us may not share fascist ideology, don't accept it all, yet the genius of aesthetics of death and stern beauty will attract generations to come.
Joy Division didn't use all these references just for provocation's sake, they were indeed attracted by the Nazi paraphernalia to a great extent, albeit on, I assume, a pure aesthetic level.
Curtis80 wrote:
79 order wrote: mmmmmm,did ian take the nazi self pity a bit too far by hanging himself out of sympathy? did he realy buy his boots from "jacks" in prestbury high street?why was he so interested in the bollington young conservative movement,,,was recording unknown pleasures in stockport a cover for visits to the blue pig in hazel grove??, he was definatley spotted on a 192 on several occasions, there is soo much info out there im surprised no one has suggested a musical or at the very least a film on the subject.
just how or why ill never understand
Dude, theres been like 3 films about Joy Division.... There was talk of a musical in another thread, but apparently Paul Young won't give permission to let them use 'Love will tear us apart' as it's the centerpiece for 'Come back & Stay- The Paul Young Story', currently being directed by the Coen Brothers. :p
Paul Young? No Parlez!!!!!!!
Ian Curtis + Tory vote = Nazi? I don't think so.
Didn't you know Hitler was a socialist?
Didn't Gordon Broon and Obama Bin Laden tell you?
According to Brain Edges's Pleasures and Wayward Distractions Private Eye magazine had a piece in 1980 about 'the rise of fascism in the rock scene' singling out NO which was, in their words, 'the unpleasent name of an even more unpleasent band called Joy Division.' New Order was though to have fascist connatations as well.But let's face it, the bad guys have the best shit. What's more impressive: the Nuremberg rallies or the changing of the guards?
New Order also went on to do some miners benefit gig and events for the unemployed- not very fascist.
borstal scum wrote: New Order also went on to do some miners benefit gig and events for the unemployed- not very fascist.
Unfortunately they did - Steve Morris was a Communist. He was seen wearing sickle&hammer.
of course they are, why do you think Steve's stockpiling armaments at his home? but waiting for the fourth reich
a very small boy wrote: Nah, Barney wasnt a nazi or a paki basher, he was just an honest apolitical skinhead.
I hope I'll never see a day when I see a bald Barney, or put it more politically correct, skinhead Barney.
Runes rule!
this curtis80 guy, sometimes he goes on like a NO/JD n00b. other times he is thowing around rarely known facts.
come on dude
can a mod x-reference the IP address he posts from
79 order wrote: did he realy buy his boots from "jacks" in prestbury high street?
why was he so interested in the bollington young conservative movement,,, was recording unknown pleasures in stockport a cover for visits to the blue pig in hazel grove??, he was definatley spotted on a 192 on several occasions,
just how or why ill never understand
! Genius.
And seized up on the floor
I thought she'd Die.
