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AN EVENING OF UNKNOWN PLEASURES live with HOOKY & HOWARD MARKS (review)

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Just got back from seeing HOOKY and HOWARD MARKS live at BOLTON Albert Halls.Met up with Alex and Jemmie. It was a top night,starting with video footage on Hooky and Steve being interviewed by Zane Lowe,plus a few other snippets like Rob Gretton "They're into GAY DISCO". Howard Marks arrives on stage,who introduces his good friend,and ivites on a night with HOOK and CROOK (!!):laugh: Hooky surrounded by an array of old basses,including his first ever guitar,the one he and Barney wired through Barney's gran's record player! He performs ELEGIA to a backing,and THE HAPPY ONE. Then followed an interview of HOOKY by MARKS,entertainly about the use of drugs.There were a few months of The Hacienda which never made it into HOW NOT TO RUN A CLUB ,because he couldn't remember any of it! He just heard off people,that he was a twat. So when he went on D-TOX,he had the Joker card,coming back as a new person meant,"I did that? Ah that was THE OTHER ME!" Talking about his career,right up to FREEBASS,there was a short break,while punters got to see a gallery of collectables.Hooky's CLONE THEORY,A1 MUSIC receipts,FAC 51 Trainers,a VIKING BADGE!! Numerous prints. In fact I spoke to HOOKY at the end,and he saw my MONACO "MUSIC FOR PLEASURE" T-Shirt,and asked me to get it on display. "Take it off!" I said "If I get my top off here,I'll frighten everyone off" 2nd HALF was a Q&A from the public,who got to post qustion cards in a box.Couldn't resist putting in a card with Jemma's "PLATT FIELDS,hmm,HOOKY DJIng,BARNEY,STEVE ,PHIL playing. A ONE OFF NEW ORDER TUNES perhaps??" A much asked question on the night,Howard asked "Will you ever record or play with NEW ORDER again?" To which Hooky shouted "YES......and here they are!!":laugh: Ah well we could only hope. A very funny anecdote arose when someone mentioned MICK HUCKNALL. Hooky said that one night they were just inside club,and he culd here shouts from outside,"Mick Hucknall coming through...Mick Hucknall coming through." And Mick Hucknall came through the door. And one of Hooky's mate's DECKED him! :rofl: Subject of downloading came up,and Hooky said he felt sorry for the backlash LILY ALLEN got over her comments. It's like you doing a week's work,and then someone telling you "Right you're not getting paid for that" Got to the subject of FREEBASS,and the initial problems of people buying FB tunes on HAC site,but they didn't receive the download after the money had been debited "AHH SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT! I'LL THINK I DO THAT WITH THE NEXT SINGLE!!":evil4: Night ended with HOOKY and HOWARD MARKS performing DARK STARR of Freebass E.P. A cracking night,dispelling any preconceptions that you may have heard it all before,a very entertaining night,and very funny.

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(one on left is Hooky's first bass!)

(Hooky's CLONE THEORY)

"Keep away from my son!!"

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So glad that all the early reviews have been positive :)

Can't wait to see it myself... part of me still can't get my head round the fact that he's even doing it!

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Nice review and pics Monty ! :thumb:

Hove you didn't take any vids of the evening though you Naughty boy :nono: :lol:

:nuts:

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great review lord monty, is the lowry gig the same format? i hope so.

I bet the gear set up to perform the happy one has shrunk considerably since he did it on the other side of midnight.

if you did video it I'd love to those performances, if that's OK with Hooky obviously:thumb: :thumb:

that eb0 is fucking awful!

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i went to the brum glee club night with the hookster:

great to see the man himself in great form ,musically and anacodately as well. it was a great idea putting all those collectables on show...bought back some great memorys of the band playing the tower ballroom. the videos were just a slight intrest as im sure most new order fans had this information or seen it elsewhere...it could of been a little longer maybe? the first half with howard was intresting but i think peter could do it by himself. the second half with audience questions was really a great idea...but too short(we could of gone on for hours i think). as usual there was a fan there who had too much dutch courage to drink before hand and kept asking question that were a bit naff and butting in when peter spoke. i didnt know you could write down a question to be answered by peter so i missed out, but someone did ask about the stockholm monsters and i now know they will never get back together....lol all together a really good night ..not too pricey but i would of liked the second half to of been a bit longer...good to hear the latest freebass song as well.....thanks very much peter

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And Alex always around :evil4:

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phillip lockhart wrote: i went to the brum glee club night with the hookster:

great to see the man himself in great form ,musically and anacodately as well. it was a great idea putting all those collectables on show...bought back some great memorys of the band playing the tower ballroom. the videos were just a slight intrest as im sure most new order fans had this information or seen it elsewhere...it could of been a little longer maybe? the first half with howard was intresting but i think peter could do it by himself. the second half with audience questions was really a great idea...but too short(we could of gone on for hours i think). as usual there was a fan there who had too much dutch courage to drink before hand and kept asking question that were a bit naff and butting in when peter spoke. i didnt know you could write down a question to be answered by peter so i missed out, but someone did ask about the stockholm monsters and i now know they will never get back together....lol all together a really good night ..not too pricey but i would of liked the second half to of been a bit longer...good to hear the latest freebass song as well.....thanks very much peter

yeah there was a couple of lads ejected by the bouncers at one point. another lad seemed to be intent on doing all the talking at one point going on about who he thought was going to win the world cup when that subject came along. this wasted time which was all too short.Hooky got fed up with him in the end and asked for more serious questions.

Funny when he was talking about Johnny Rotten on the 1989 US tour,heard the story before but good to hear again,what was it about Rotten didn't want New Order to be headliners? but New Order told him PIL were in fact headliners which swayed Rotten to do the tour.except New Order would be coming on after them :lol: Said Rotten never really got New Order. Hooky took the piss out of Birmingham a fair bit:lol:

yeah it did bring back memories of the 1986 Tower Ballroom gig. bumped into a lad i know who also attended that one and we both agreed it was an amazing gig.he still says it's the best gig he's ever been to in his whole life.

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someone asked if Barney would be phoning Hooky in the morning to see how the first night of the tour went to which Hooky replied "Oh, Barney phones me every morning":lol: Boxers or briefs? someone asked to which Hooky said Barney nor him wear anything, "that's how we got together, slapping each other's bare arses in the dressing room":rofl:

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Hooky said John Entwhistle was his favourite bass player ever and regrets not taking the opportunity to talk to him at a party after the Finsbury 2002 gig, said he got nervous and did a runner which he eternally regrets as Entwhistle died a couple of weeks later

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Jack - can you ask if there's any plan for a London show?

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Johnny Giles wrote: Jack - can you ask if there's any plan for a London show?

and Liverpool!

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Hooky's taken a fair bit of stick over some of his decisions lately but this actually sounds like a well thought out idea and a good format. I would deffo be interested in going if this came to town.

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...was it this event whre they were going to show some rare footage of Joy Division ???

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was led to believe there would be some previously unseen New Order and Joy Division footage but i didn't spot any :shrug:

there was the compilation of clips before Hooky and Marks took to the stage and it looked like some more clips were planned to be shown at the start of the second part after the interval.however there seemed to be a technical hitch and cue lots of scrambling around of the cursor on the screen and bits of audio which started and stopped.One bit if i remember right was Tony Wilson saying ".. and do you know what Shaun said next?!.." before the gremlins cut it off and silence hung in the air at what Shaun could possibly have said next. As the silence went on audience members started to shout out what Shaun might have said .Stuff like "You're a cunt Tony" and "Give us another line of coke Tony!" :rofl:

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Tock wrote:

Johnny Giles wrote: Jack - can you ask if there's any plan for a London show?

and Liverpool!

and Heywood!

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Johnny/Monty, good reviews, what time did it finish, as doing Boro' & Toon' shows next week but we dont know if to train up (if early finish)or drive:deal:

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Andrew Sayer wrote: Johnny/Monty, good reviews, what time did it finish, as doing Boro' & Toon' shows next week but we dont know if to train up (if early finish)or drive:deal:

Doing the Boro one. On my ticket(Ticket No 51,as it goes)it says doors 7pm,starts 7:30pm. Even if it's 3 hours long,which I can't see,more like 2 probably....you'll get a train back to Darlo no bother Andrew,and the venue is only a stones throw from the train station.Job's right.:thumb:

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BOLTON started about 8ish and finished about quarter past/half past 10.

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MONTY wrote: BOLTON

They were robbed against Chelsea last night an all,should have had 2 pens.

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Birmingham went on quite late, though i don't think they came on til nearly 9pm? The last train was 11pm and at 10.50 i was still in the venue watching Hooky and Marks doing Dark Starr at the end of the show.Had to leave before they finished the song in the end to leg it back to the station!

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Were they selling any merchandise? I presume thats something they wouldnt miss out on!

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Boatraceface wrote:

MONTY wrote: BOLTON

They were robbed against Chelsea last night an all,should have had 2 pens.

Don't get me started :angry:

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confusion wrote:

Tock wrote:

Johnny Giles wrote: Jack - can you ask if there's any plan for a London show?

and Liverpool!

and Heywood!

The only shows that are happening are the ones listed on the site http://www.peterhook.co.uk for the moment!

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Regarding Barney and Bad Loo Johnny Giles wrote: ... I hit Chicago on Friday afternoon...

and then

Regarding Hooky Johnny Giles wrote: Jack - can you ask if there's any plan for a London show?

Favouritism!

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chris murray wrote: Were they selling any merchandise? I presume thats something they wouldnt miss out on!

Yeah,as well as the HOOKY BOOKY WOOK,some top t-shirts,including the "WE MADE HISTORY ,NOT MONEY" shirt Hooky wore at FAC 251 opening.Also some vey large prints of HAC on sale,and a painting of Ian Curtis (didn't see the price)

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I went to the Milton keynes show last night and it was superb. Hooky and 'crook' were on good form ,to tell the truth I could've sat there all day listening to them chat... Elegia was stunning, I took my wife up the aisle(!) to that track so it was quite moving. The Happy one has always been a fave of mine and to hear it live was fantastic and to top it all Hooky was using my old Yamaha !! Nearly forgot, the display was very interesting with his old gear and tapes etc and THOSE BASSES I was in bass heaven..

Had a brief chat and got my limited edition Revenge t - shirt sighned at the end....

If you haven't already get yourself along to one of these shows they really are worth ever penny! So much so I'm going again to the Oxford show.....

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Agreed. I particularly liked getting up close to his Bass collection.

The stuff in the display cabinet was really interesting too. I was particularly interested in Rob Gretton's resignation letter!

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A highly entertaining eveing last night at the stables. A few highlights (for me anyway).

  • Hooky was hugely entertaning,and although i'd heard or read most of these tales before they still sounded fresh and amussing.
  • It sounds like there could be a fair bit of Joy Division stuff to be worked on (and maybe even released!)
  • Loads of great stuff to see in the cabinets plus a rather nice painting of Ian Curtis

And a couple of low points.

  • Video sound wasn't too good (could be my ears though)
  • Everytime Marks opened his mouth I felt like nodding off.
  • freezing cold beer.
  • A N.O. re-union seems further away than ever.

All in all a good night out.

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[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote:

confusion wrote:

Tock wrote:

Johnny Giles wrote: Jack - can you ask if there's any plan for a London show?

and Liverpool!

and Heywood!

The only shows that are happening are the ones listed on the site http://www.peterhook.co.uk for the moment!

It would be nice for a show at another factory night in Bruxelles end of the year for example.

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Hookys six string bass wrote"im going to oxford"

indeed , should be a good night just booked me tickets, when i went for the book signing i got 49 peices of stuff signed by the man,, cant wait:evil4:

endless talking.

zero.

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We went last night Boro' too many dickheads asking stupid Q (as tho being hibernating for 20 yrs) Even a propa hippy twat with a Floyd tshirt scruffy hobo (so wrong). Hooky gen good reminisces about the 3rd Warsaw gig here he still has the whole tape but the time isnt right!. Still no father forwards withe the 2nd Monaco lp debarcle release. Mentioned that Freebass playing 1st gig at Coventry but i think the daft bugger has got mixed up with York. Nice to see the alternative 'Republic' song titles good few months before it came out. Raced over to him at end for a while b4 every man n his dog got their £20book signed cause none of my bastard Q got asked out. (carn't be doing with signing shit) Very obliging and looked lot trimmer than since the book tour in autumn last year. Ohh asked bout Manc May 18th gig Unknown Pleasures.. says band similar to 'The Light' but with Alan Hempshall doing vocs..thats interesting.

PS. alright Boaty. long time no see (Blackpool gardens if i remember)forgot to ask if you did James gig up Toon' tother week. I did.. dead good.. played Hymn..Hup Springs :thumb:

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Never went to JAMES,no.Love them though. Think I commented on the other Unknown Pleasures thread,when it probably should have been this thread really.Nice seeing you again mate,hope you made that train back to Darlo,and see you at Freebass in York.:thumb:

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Great show last night at the Sage. Liked the story about World In Motion nearly being called 'E for England'. Tony Wilson thought it was a bad idea considering it was 1990, and the drug reference! Brilliant.

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Top night at Sage, Gateshead last night. Wasn't sure what to expect and despite initial apparent discomfort from Hooky and the crowd (when he shuffled on in silence without a word, sat down and picked up a bass) it all worked really well.

Only criticism I have is that the memorabilia was all on the stage so didn't get a chance to look at it but looking at other reviews pictures it seems others were able to wander about and have a closer look.

Was chatting to me mate at end of gig and Hooky walked straight past us - and I didn't notice!

Could have stayed and listened longer though. It seems there may be a glimmer of hope that they may yet get together again as NO ("Never say never" - Hooky) - fingers crossed!

All in all a really entertaining night - cheers!

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Steve Dodds wrote: Top night at Sage, Gateshead last night. Wasn't sure what to expect and despite initial apparent discomfort from Hooky and the crowd (when he shuffled on in silence without a word, sat down and picked up a bass) it all worked really well.

Only criticism I have is that the memorabilia was all on the stage so didn't get a chance to look at it but looking at other reviews pictures it seems others were able to wander about and have a closer look.

Was chatting to me mate at end of gig and Hooky walked straight past us - and I didn't notice!

Could have stayed and listened longer though. It seems there may be a glimmer of hope that they may yet get together again as NO ("Never say never" - Hooky) - fingers crossed!

All in all a really entertaining night - cheers!

Aye Hooky did seem to look a bit uncomfortable and awkward when he first came on at the Brum do.Not a word and straight into Elegia then The Happy One. I really feared the thing was gonna die on stage before the chat started but Hooky quickly settled down and the chat started flowing.Could have gone on for hours in the end. Memorabilia was to the side of the stage so not a problem viewing it all.

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Oxford last night, realy enjoyed it , eligia was ace and the freebass number was exciting and dark,, memrobilia was pretty good, there was the warsaw tape from boro with a couple of titles unheard of,, lust! didt ask the man about them,, highlight for me was seeing That guitar,,, Good stuff alround . Hooky stayed and chatted for a while,let slip hese opening with at a later date in may.

signed my Salford 85 ticket stub"you know you should be giving this to me , there you go HOOKY" i offered to swop it for something on stage, no buys.

happy One

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Anyone know if there's still tickets for the Lowry on Friday?

Or anyone got a spare?

Please?

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there was the warsaw tape from boro with a couple of titles unheard of,, lust!

So we get to look at that cassette? Hmmm, how about hearing it?

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Pablo Bastardo wrote: Anyone know if there's still tickets for the Lowry on Friday?

Or anyone got a spare?

Please?

Sold out mate!!

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Pah, thought so. No idea why I didn't grab one of these.

Any chance you can prop open a fire escape while I slip in? I'll bung you a tenner :wink:

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Pablo Bastardo wrote: Anyone know if there's still tickets for the Lowry on Friday?

Or anyone got a spare?

Please?

You had me panicing then, it's not Friday, it's Saturday, I have two tickets, but the wife wants to come along, sorry mate.

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glos last night, loads of questions, nothing new really

some good stuff on mick hucknall/ the world in motion recording

hooky mixed reading up with glasters though - said the cage was lowered from the ceiling for wim & keith came out - that was reading 98 shirley?

stage area available for inspection before & after witht he memorabilia out including john entwhistle's bass

sound quality wasnt great but able to make out most of the video presentation & hooky signed everything offered to him at the end

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Went to see Hooky at Wakefield on Tuesday night. Hooky was on good form, very entertaining. It's just a pity that he and the audience had to put up with the interventions of a number of morons in the audience. Hooky must have been frustrated but dealt with the banal and puerile offerings from the crowd in an appropriate way. The sound for the film was poor but improved when Hooky played Elegia.

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Hi all,

Quick question, how do you add images on here?

I've got some from Glos on 28th I'd like to post.

Thanks! Ant

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Second To None wrote: Hi all,

Quick question, how do you add images on here?

I've got some from Glos on 28th I'd like to post.

Thanks! Ant

First load up the photos to another site, plenty out there but make sure it's something everyone can see i.e not facebook, then when posting copy the address of each pic click the 'image' button on the left of the post text box and paste the link in.

hope that helps.

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Went to Derby last night. Really enjoyed it. I went to the Revenge gig back in July 4th 1990 at the Dial in Derby and it was good Hooky rememered it. My mate Rob gave him a flyer from that night and Hooky was well pelased to add to his collection. Good story about all the revenge gigs being booked and world cup dates hence nobody turned up. He answered my question about 'does he ever see Barney down at the shops' A question I nicked from this site can't remember who from. Apprantly he saw him recently buying a mothers day card when Barney saw him he put out his hand and they both shook hands then barney left!

I had turrets at one point and kept shouting out Barney must have been the Grolsh. Sat at the back 1st session and right at the front second session. Really good versions of the Happy One and Elegia.

Hooky did say the new Feeebass ablum would have a phsical release.

shame he never answered my question on did Steve go wild on tour 2001 onwards once Gillian had left the band and who was the most caned one in New Order.

Nice that Hooky is coming to these places such as Derby who wouldn't normally get Hooky gigging their. A very entertaining night only downside is that they had no 'we made history not money' t shirts available sold out before Derby.

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The Shadow wrote: A question I nicked from this site can't remember who from. Apprantly he saw him recently buying a mothers day card when Barney saw him he put out his hand and they both shook hands then barney left!

Nuh Ordah! New album in a few years later!

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I don't suppose anyone's got a spare ticket for Hull have they? Can't believe it's a sell-out! :cry:

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Some more tickets have been released, so got one now - Magic! Just need to decide what to get signed now - Nu Order :thumb:

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