Onebass?

Seems like Hooky has pissed Mani off

Mani slags Hooky on twitter

Or just 'Bass'.

The Teacher wrote:

That your last word on the matter, Teach?

i've actually got an ongoing career, so I don't feel the need to exploit my past glories. I exist in the here and the now !!!

I’m getting back with the “real”players tomorrow thank fuck. Can’t be doing with talentless nostalgia fuckwit whores

...'course, he's currently rehearsing the whole of Screamadelica with the Primals. No nostalgia or exploiting past glories there, no way!

What can I possibly add that hasnt already said?

My initial reaction was that the account has been hacked. And I wouldnt be surprised if that was the case.

Pretty heavy stuff from Mani then, bringing rotting corpses into it. Im still not convinced its 100% genuine though.

What a mess.It's a pity when it has to come this between mates in my view,and a bit pathetic.I can see them both looking like a pair of bitter tweeting daft cunts if this continues.

I imagine it must be pretty annoying to have a band split up publicly and have this all aired via the internet for everyone to see

hmmm...

Just washing their dirty laundry in public. Manchester, innit. People in smaller houses are still screaming this sort of stuff over the backhard fence in their hair rollers. Those with too much leylandii between them need to resort to modern methods. Elsewhere on the internet, embarrassed relatives are hissing "will you come inside, the whole Tweet can hear".

The Teacher wrote:

My initial reaction was that the account has been hacked. And I wouldnt be surprised if that was the case.

I doubt it, the bloke who posted it on Sabotage Times knows the Primals very well and is an ex-editor of NME

Sab O'Tage!

This is really fucking sad.

I wish Mani hadn't felt the need to express himself in these terms. But if this all blew up because Mani wanted to tour/promote Freebass while Hooky has been busy booking up his schedule with various other tours, then I do see his point.

If you spend as much time as they have on making a record, finding a vocalist, investing time, energy and money in the project, not to mention fretting about how best to release it for as long as they have...well, then you might as well try to do the record justice when it comes out.

"The Thoughts of Chairman Mani", now available as limited edition "splatter painting" red book, only £450, suckers! maybe not...

Tony Casanova wrote: ..not to mention fretting about how best to release it...

Intentional or accidental guitar puns always lighten the mood.

Two bald men fight over a comb, 21st Century style.

Well this is still publicity of the most awful kind and will probably do the Freebass CD sales no end of good!

What an embarrassment, I just hope Mani actually said all this stuff to Hooky's face before sharing it with the world.......I get the feeling he would have....he is no patsy.

Game over.

I am shocked to hear this.

http://fuc51.blogspot.com/2010/09/mani-rants-and-we-briefly-oil-creaking.html

Stone Roses, Primal Scream and no longer Freebasser Mani, has gone on a huge Twitter rant provoking FUC51 to peer out from the duvet and share his rallying cry against a certain someone who has been something of a target on these very pages. Is the Manc old guard finally turning on itself like a shark attacking its own wound? Read over for Mani's diatribes.

Here are Mani's rants against Peter Hook (all [sic]):

"3 things visible from space, great wall of china, peter hooks wallet stuffed with ian Curtis blood money, man citys empty trophy cabinet !."

"quite disgusting and very crass and self centred violation of memories for personal financial gain. Scummy behaviour really"

"he ain't got time for me now he's getting fortunes for dragging his mates cadaver round the world getting himself paid. Thank fuck"

"used to adore the man, now he's a self centred sellout reduced to hawking his mates corpse around to get paid. And he can't play"

"I'm fine, dunno about the vulture who is ravenously devouring the last morsels of putrid flesh from Wilson/Curtis bones [...] I'm getting back with the "real"players tomorrow thank fuck. Can't be doing with talentless nostalgia fuckwit whores."

"and I haven't even started on the cunts amateur night, one trick pony shite 2 string bass playing yet either. Used to laugh [...] we were all laughing behind his back watching the stupid wank struggle to do the same old shit he's done for the last 30 years !!"

On Freebass - "it's where it belongs mate.... In the fuckin bargain bin before it's even released. you live and learn. I'm still no 1 though."

And finally - "recovered from my vicious rants of last night.dont take to kindly to getting mugged off by people who cant hold a torch to me [...] either personally or professionally. ever wondered why im universally loved, and another manc ex legend in his own mind is despised by most [...] simple really, treat people with the same respect as you would expect from them,live in the present, and dont surround yourself with [...] yes men,nodding dogs and sycophants !!!"

Of course, Mani is covering himself in glory by saying he's universally loved, which of course, he isn't. However, it is funny to imagine him sat in front of a spittle-flecked screen, hammering away on Twitter in the early hours... well worth coming out of retirement for.

This clearly makes us as bad as Hooky by not quitting when we really should have. As penance, FUC51 is off to FAC251 to talk to pink faced 40somethings about how Es were better when they cost £20 whilst wearing a floppy sunhat.

"can't hold a candle to me personally or professionally"

I had to put gaffer round my belly when I read that to stop it exploding in LOLs

I must have missed "Mani plays Claypool" or "the Victor Wooten and Mani's Hot Grooves" Tuition DVD series.

Certainly missed his polyphonic solos on the Freebass album.

Twat.

As for past glories etc......yup rehearsing Screamadelica.....and there's not an old song in sight on the freebass album, Mani lives in an alternate reality (a perfectly good thing for a bassman of course).

Y'all think I'm right up Hooky's arse...and you may be right, but not just Hooky, I am passionate about my rumbleplank, and adore and laud anyone who shoves it up the front and says "Fuck you, this is my bass, it does a lot more than play root notes and 12 bar fuckin boogie wanker woogie!!!!!!"

Mani is a great player and all, but viewed in the above context, we are talking............

Hooky Mani

Next he'll be telling me this guy is living off Wynona's Big Brown Beaver and the South Park theme.

Oh and in my dictionary under "fuck you, this is my bass" is pretty much this tune (along with a great deal of The Hookster's output). I particularly enjoy the crazy loud bit at the end.

Tell you what Mani...learn to play like that cunt, THEN start talkin about who you're better than you micrococked fucktard!

So... Hooky first finished New Order and now this side-project... Tendencies... Well done, maestro! Just joking :)

My three cents into the death of New Order:

1. It's perfectly fine they stopped in 2006. They made youth music, first of all. Sadly English musicians don't have retirement outlets like Americans (blues, country, folk), so there. The glorious years are apparently behind, so it's better to stop with a good face. Have them dig out rarities, concerts, tapes, etc. like all other bands do after they disband... Business as usual.

2. Hooky should have teamed with Potts again - seems it always worked out fine. Maybe a new band, 'Luxembourg'? And Bernard maybe should continue his electronic side with... Electronic (just please no more guitarry shit like on TT).

3. All these exclusive products, Hacienda nights... etc. Of course, it's all nostalgia marketing, without any judgment here. The very image of Factory Records was there was some mystery, or better put, the wise lack of proper information that made the whole scene attractive!! Now opening all the doors and boxes, it loses its appeal at accelerating pace. I want to forget the present and just think of the past on my own, without lectures!

Denholm Reynholm wrote: I was wondering when Cambo would pop up with a post that would make you literally cringe to be a New Order fan. Easy lad. To anyone new reading we're not all like that

I am beginning to feel a bit sorry for the Hookster. He's taken a fair old bit of flack on these forums over the past couple of years. Sometimes the flack was deserved and sometimes not. Now it seems to be coming directly from a (former?) band mate in a very public manner. I don't imagine the Curtis & Wilson rotting flesh comment will be opening any doors at FAC251 any time soon.

'Swat I'm talkin about.....Hooky is merely one example of a man who wont stand at the back and be unknown just cos he plays the coolest instrument.....but no, I just wanna bum him in your head LOL.

(I notice Barney shoves his plankist into the shadows these days)

Whats all this negativity for then?