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Hooky will be doing a Movement tour!!!
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Thanks for the link Andy but, fuck me, as interesting as they are they always make me feel a bit depressed.
Andy wrote: More of the same with added Gillian bashing:
Now, that is a proper interview.
What a great read.
The more I think about this, the more I believe Hooky should just stick with the JD stuff and not bother with this whole Movement malarkey. He is always going to get an audience with the JD stuff. The band are right up there with the likes of Hendrix and the Doors in rock mythology. People of all ages will always have an interest.
In truth, who gives a shit about Movement? A few hundred New Order fans with a passing interest who'd probably only go and see Movement live if Hooky turned up near their doorstep? You're never going to get the yoof onside, like what he gets with Joy Division. Who under the age of 40 would give a shiny one about Movement?
There's an ongoing career for Hooky in simply touring the Joy Division stuff, I don't see any legs whatsoever in plodding on down this Movement path, and then PCL after that, etc.
In fact, Hooky sticking with Joy Division is possibly even a better a career choice than New Order sticking with, er, New Order. Especially as the live side of stuff will always be Hooky's passion.
Allan,
Remember that most of JD fans consideres Movement their favorite NO album, excluding me ; ) Maybe this is Hooky's guide force to want to play it live.
Big Mouth Julio wrote: Remember that most of JD fans consideres Movement their favorite NO album
Prove it. 
El Jarvo wrote:
Big Mouth Julio wrote: Remember that most of JD fans consideres Movement their favorite NO album
Prove it.
I meant the massive JD fans 
Visit JD Central website just to see that I am telling the truth 
From the interview in the Montreal Gazette
. Because in Bad Lieutenant he was playing New Order, and he was playing the normal New Order – ones that we’d played. So there was nothing new in it. He didn’t do anything different to how New Order was when we were New Order, you know what I mean? So it’ll be very interesting to see what he does. But yeah, I would like to play New Order. I would like to play Movement next. I don’t know whether you’d get around the world with Movement the way I have with Unknown Pleasures, but for my pleasure – no pun intended – it would be nice to do Movement, and go on to do Power, Corruption and Lies. As long as there’s an audience there – a few people – I can do it at the Factory, because it’s my club! (Laughs) Even if there’s nobody there, I can still do it, as long as I pay my musicians Read more:
There were some 'new' songs in BL's setlist---songs from the Never Cry Another Tear album.
I’m a fan of Joy Division’s music; I’m not a fan of the way Ian died. That’s the bit I hate about Joy Division. So it’s very difficult for me to comment on it. ....So I suppose in a way, whereas it would be difficult for those younger audiences to relate to 55-year-old blokes, it’s quite easy for them to relate to somebody like Ian, because he looks just like them. So I don’t know, really. But I’m not a great fan of that cult. It’s a strange way of looking at music to me.
Agreed. I'm not a fan of romanticising famous people who died young either.
Andy wrote: More of the same with added Gillian bashing:
I guess Barney is really senile(beside the fact that he has to use a teleprompter to sing the songs that he fkn wrote). I highly doubt you can say that anything on the Technique album would be "too rocky"! I guess to him Crystal is not as "Rocky" as Fine Time.
leather_girl wrote: From the interview in the Montreal Gazette
. Because in Bad Lieutenant he was playing New Order, and he was playing the normal New Order – ones that we’d played. So there was nothing new in it. He didn’t do anything different to how New Order was when we were New Order, you know what I mean? So it’ll be very interesting to see what he does. But yeah, I would like to play New Order. I would like to play Movement next. I don’t know whether you’d get around the world with Movement the way I have with Unknown Pleasures, but for my pleasure – no pun intended – it would be nice to do Movement, and go on to do Power, Corruption and Lies. As long as there’s an audience there – a few people – I can do it at the Factory, because it’s my club! (Laughs) Even if there’s nobody there, I can still do it, as long as I pay my musicians Read more:
There were some 'new' songs in BL's setlist---songs from the Never Cry Another Tear album.
I’m a fan of Joy Division’s music; I’m not a fan of the way Ian died. That’s the bit I hate about Joy Division. So it’s very difficult for me to comment on it. ....So I suppose in a way, whereas it would be difficult for those younger audiences to relate to 55-year-old blokes, it’s quite easy for them to relate to somebody like Ian, because he looks just like them. So I don’t know, really. But I’m not a great fan of that cult. It’s a strange way of looking at music to me.
Agreed. I'm not a fan of romanticising famous people who died young either.
So you don't like songs by Winehouse, Cobain, Hendrix, Curtis, Morrison, Joplin
Big Mouth Julio wrote: So you don't like songs by Winehouse, Cobain, Hendrix, Curtis, Morrison, Joplin
I don't think people really make heroes of Curtis, Morrison, etc...but nobody is perfect and people tend to attach themselves emotionally to those who have similar problems. For instance, if you've ever had trouble staying faithful in a relationship, maybe you can relate to Ian on that level. We all stumble in life, and we like to know we're not alone.
Aries wrote:
Big Mouth Julio wrote: So you don't like songs by Winehouse, Cobain, Hendrix, Curtis, Morrison, Joplin
I don't think people really make heroes of Curtis, Morrison, etc...but nobody is perfect and people tend to attach themselves emotionally to those who have similar problems. For instance, if you've ever had trouble staying faithful in a relationship, maybe you can relate to Ian on that level. We all stumble in life, and we like to know we're not alone.
True. I don't romanticize Ian for committing suicide, though it's tragic that he took his life. I think it was wrong for him to cheat on Debbie and he clearly didn't give thought to his daughter growing up without a Dad. He was 21. Most of use are confused or depressed someway at that age.
With regards to relating to someone...
I am 29.
I've been a New Order/Joy Division fan since I was 14.
About a year ago, I was diagnosed with Epilepsy after having a seizure that put me in the hospital.
I've had seizures since then. I don't take medication because I don't have health insurance. I cannot describe how scary and awful having an Epileptic seizure is.
Needless to say, being an Epileptic has changed the way I listen to Joy Division.
Big Mouth Julio wrote:
leather_girl wrote: From the interview in the Montreal Gazette
. Because in Bad Lieutenant he was playing New Order, and he was playing the normal New Order – ones that we’d played. So there was nothing new in it. He didn’t do anything different to how New Order was when we were New Order, you know what I mean? So it’ll be very interesting to see what he does. But yeah, I would like to play New Order. I would like to play Movement next. I don’t know whether you’d get around the world with Movement the way I have with Unknown Pleasures, but for my pleasure – no pun intended – it would be nice to do Movement, and go on to do Power, Corruption and Lies. As long as there’s an audience there – a few people – I can do it at the Factory, because it’s my club! (Laughs) Even if there’s nobody there, I can still do it, as long as I pay my musicians Read more:
There were some 'new' songs in BL's setlist---songs from the Never Cry Another Tear album.
I’m a fan of Joy Division’s music; I’m not a fan of the way Ian died. That’s the bit I hate about Joy Division. So it’s very difficult for me to comment on it. ....So I suppose in a way, whereas it would be difficult for those younger audiences to relate to 55-year-old blokes, it’s quite easy for them to relate to somebody like Ian, because he looks just like them. So I don’t know, really. But I’m not a great fan of that cult. It’s a strange way of looking at music to me.
Agreed. I'm not a fan of romanticising famous people who died young either.
So you don't like songs by Winehouse, Cobain, Hendrix, Curtis, Morrison, Joplin
I don't listen to that kind of music, but that's not because they died young. I just don't like the people who adore them in a cult-like way just because they've died young.
Zachery Starkey wrote:
Aries wrote:
Big Mouth Julio wrote: So you don't like songs by Winehouse, Cobain, Hendrix, Curtis, Morrison, Joplin
I don't think people really make heroes of Curtis, Morrison, etc...but nobody is perfect and people tend to attach themselves emotionally to those who have similar problems. For instance, if you've ever had trouble staying faithful in a relationship, maybe you can relate to Ian on that level. We all stumble in life, and we like to know we're not alone.
True. I don't romanticize Ian for committing suicide, though it's tragic that he took his life. I think it was wrong for him to cheat on Debbie and he clearly didn't give thought to his daughter growing up without a Dad. He was 21. Most of use are confused or depressed someway at that age.
With regards to relating to someone...
I am 29.
I've been a New Order/Joy Division fan since I was 14.
About a year ago, I was diagnosed with Epilepsy after having a seizure that put me in the hospital.
I've had seizures since then. I don't take medication because I don't have health insurance. I cannot describe how scary and awful having an Epileptic seizure is.
Needless to say, being an Epileptic has changed the way I listen to Joy Division.
We are lucky in Oz, we have a reasonable health care system, and medication is so much cheaper. Sorry to hear you are unable to purchase the meds which could help prevent them in the future.
Big Mouth Julio wrote:
leather_girl wrote: From the interview in the Montreal Gazette
. Because in Bad Lieutenant he was playing New Order, and he was playing the normal New Order – ones that we’d played. So there was nothing new in it. He didn’t do anything different to how New Order was when we were New Order, you know what I mean? So it’ll be very interesting to see what he does. But yeah, I would like to play New Order. I would like to play Movement next. I don’t know whether you’d get around the world with Movement the way I have with Unknown Pleasures, but for my pleasure – no pun intended – it would be nice to do Movement, and go on to do Power, Corruption and Lies. As long as there’s an audience there – a few people – I can do it at the Factory, because it’s my club! (Laughs) Even if there’s nobody there, I can still do it, as long as I pay my musicians Read more:
There were some 'new' songs in BL's setlist---songs from the Never Cry Another Tear album.
I’m a fan of Joy Division’s music; I’m not a fan of the way Ian died. That’s the bit I hate about Joy Division. So it’s very difficult for me to comment on it. ....So I suppose in a way, whereas it would be difficult for those younger audiences to relate to 55-year-old blokes, it’s quite easy for them to relate to somebody like Ian, because he looks just like them. So I don’t know, really. But I’m not a great fan of that cult. It’s a strange way of looking at music to me.
Agreed. I'm not a fan of romanticising famous people who died young either.
So you don't like songs by Winehouse, Cobain, Hendrix, Curtis, Morrison, Joplin
She said she isn't into romanticising dead stars; she never claimed she wouldn't listen or like their music -
total logic fail there, Big Mouth.
condemnation wrote:
Zachery Starkey wrote:
Aries wrote:
Big Mouth Julio wrote: So you don't like songs by Winehouse, Cobain, Hendrix, Curtis, Morrison, Joplin
I don't think people really make heroes of Curtis, Morrison, etc...but nobody is perfect and people tend to attach themselves emotionally to those who have similar problems. For instance, if you've ever had trouble staying faithful in a relationship, maybe you can relate to Ian on that level. We all stumble in life, and we like to know we're not alone.
True. I don't romanticize Ian for committing suicide, though it's tragic that he took his life. I think it was wrong for him to cheat on Debbie and he clearly didn't give thought to his daughter growing up without a Dad. He was 21. Most of use are confused or depressed someway at that age.
With regards to relating to someone...
I am 29.
I've been a New Order/Joy Division fan since I was 14.
About a year ago, I was diagnosed with Epilepsy after having a seizure that put me in the hospital.
I've had seizures since then. I don't take medication because I don't have health insurance. I cannot describe how scary and awful having an Epileptic seizure is.
Needless to say, being an Epileptic has changed the way I listen to Joy Division.
We are lucky in Oz, we have a reasonable health care system, and medication is so much cheaper. Sorry to hear you are unable to purchase the meds which could help prevent them in the future.
Thanks. :) I am sure you know that here in the US Health Care in unaffordable to most people, if they don't get it thru work they simply don't have it. I am one of those folks.
I do wish I was taking them as it might prevent the seizures from happening, but I do have to say this, the few times I did take the meds they really, really made me feel weird and not good.
