Here To Stay [1 March 2012 Melbourne Festival Hall]
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not too bad.. seems cut off at the end..
the vocals are a little muddy.
nice for them to bring this song back..
later -1
Fuck Sake.
Thought Jarvo was kidding when he told me about this, it's a long running joke.
Cannae believe this has finally been played and i wasnae there, sounds like it needs played another few times, but nae bad, nae bad at all 
ShugZV wrote: Fuck Sake.
Thought Jarvo was kidding when he told me about this, it's a long running joke.
Here To Stay would've been the punchline to a very shit joke.
Age of Consent, however. 
-1 wrote: the vocals are a little muddy...
later -1
too right barney's vocals were a bit muddled or maybe instrumentation was just over-powering, me thinks throughout the gig ..except for couple of barney's yelping here and there 
I never understood why they didn't play this in 2002 : glad to hear it at last. Looks as if the new lineup are finally getting the band to do some work and bring variety to the sets again. Been too long.
mark reed wrote: I never understood why they didn't play this in 2002 : glad to hear it at last. Looks as if the new lineup are finally getting the band to do some work and bring variety to the sets again. Been too long.
10th anniversary of the song?
I hope they keep Love Vigilantes off the set list, doesn't really work live in my opinion.
Hope they play HTS and Round and Round in April.
Sounds fucking fantastic! This video is only the first half of the song though.
This is, in my opinion, one of their best songs. It was a missed opportunity that it wasn't on GR and was released as a sountrack single for 24 HR PP......would have been a killer first single for WFTSC, and it would have fit on and elevated that album. I bet it would have went Top 10 in the UK.
And WHY didn't they play it live before this? It sounds fucking great and listen to the big cheer from the crowd when it starts, people love this song!
Zachery Starkey wrote: ....
This is, in my opinion, one of their best songs. It was a missed opportunity that it wasn't on GR and was released as a sountrack single for 24 HR PP......would have been a killer first single for WFTSC, .....
Def agree its great fkg song and should have been on WFTSC album, in fact, should have been the opener - you see the title GET READY obviously alerting the world New Order's back...and then with opening track for follow-up album title HERE TO STAY would have been perfect telling the world NEW ORDER is here to stay...ORDER! ORDER! ORDER!
Does that leave 'Spooky' as the only New Order single never played live?
I love Spooky as well :(
Thanx! Yep, he needs to sing it more to get comfortable with the vocals.
Another vote for HURT
Ger Boy wrote: Does that leave 'Spooky' as the only New Order single never played live?
I love Spooky as well :(
They never played Murder live.
Hi, I took this footage from the Melbourne concert at Festival Hall on 1 March 2012. Unfortunately, the security guy (in front of me) kept looking at me so I could not film all of 'Here To Stay'. Had the same problem with other songs. I will put more on Youtube in coming days. Enjoy!! (PS - we don't see much of New Order in Australia so the crowd was very happy with the entire night!).
I just used my mobile phone for the footage - a Sony Ericsson Experia Arc s. I think it is in 720p resolution. Unfortunately, the phone did not like the loudness/bass so the music does not come across as clear as on the night. Audio was brilliant at the gig!
everyoneverywhere wrote: Love Vigilantes off the set list, doesn't really work live in my opinion.
they sounded ace @ henry kaiser convention center, ca
I think Here to Stay would sound better if Barney sings it less strained and more whispering.
Pyrtwist wrote: Thanx! Yep, he needs to sing it more to get comfortable with the vocals.
Another vote for HURT
I don't think the vocals were too bad, the entire song was a mess though. Needs a bit of work. Likewise '1963' does not work live anymore, new arrangement lacks, well everything.
Sadly I don't think Here to stay works. The guitar sounded messy. I had to force my ears to hear the rift. And Barney failed in singing it.
I also think 1963 didn't work live. I liked Round & round. Well lets see what they do next? Maybe the village???
Turn Jim wrote: Sadly I don't think Here to stay works. The guitar sounded messy. I had to force my ears to hear the rift. And Barney failed in singing it.
I also think 1963 didn't work live. I liked Round & round. Well lets see what they do next? Maybe the village???
Give em a chance for christ's sake. First time they've ever played it, it's gonna be a bit rough and ready. Reserve judgment until after they given it a few more run outs and got used to it a bit more! And perhaps reserve judgment until you've actually seen it live as well!
I don't want them to stop playing it. At least until we get a nice soundboard recording of it. I do hope it improves.
If they come to Italy and play Round and Round PLUS Here To Stay I'll be as happy as Melanie C's bicycle seat. Everyone has their story of how they got into New Order, for me it was R&R on TOTP early 89! Classic moment, classic song and let's be honest their only consistent album. Everyone goes on about LowLife but it's only the first side really, Technique remains the true killer.
Intro sounds alright but a bit messy after that but yeah first time ever played so give it a chance. That intro reminded me how the extended version on the 12" starts and prompted me to give it a spin for the first time in years
Turn Jim wrote: Sadly I don't think Here to stay works. The guitar sounded messy. I had to force my ears to hear the rift. And Barney failed in singing it.
I also think 1963 didn't work live. I liked Round & round. Well lets see what they do next? Maybe the village???
You can hear on the video of 'Round and Round' that it does work ok, but being there for 'Here to stay', hearing it live in person, it didn't.
Zachery Starkey wrote:
This is, in my opinion, one of their best songs. It was a missed opportunity that it wasn't on GR and was released as a sountrack single for 24 HR PP......would have been a killer first single for WFTSC, and it would have fit on and elevated that album. I bet it would have went Top 10 in the UK.
It was a single and hit no.15 in the UK, which isn't a bad position really.. unless I am missing something here
It sounded slightly dated in 2006 whereas today Crystal still sounds fresh.
