New Box Set

here's a clue via Twitter

Exciting stuff. Movement is my favourite album so a re-issue accompanied by demo tracks would give me an almighty erection.

On 5 July Hooky boned a ho. This bodes well for the box set as BOned, BOx set and BOde start with BO, like BOth if there were three words and not two. Also 5 July is a date and Stephen and Gillian used to date before getting married, and the box set should have a release date. Also date is a type of food and we need food to live and not die and if you take the word not and take the last letter off you get the initials of New Order. It's all so thrilling.

Well, they've done it again. Sorry for being such a negative, pessimistic asshole all the time.

Done what?

http://forums.neworderonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=23249#post23249

I'm still none the wiser

Apologies, I thought it was clear. Hence I shall repeat the awesome, stunning, wondrousful world of New Order rererererererereleases:

1. A tiny, minimal, amoeba-size suggestion something just might like y'know could ummmm may maybe be on the cards.
2. Everyone on NOOL forums gets an instant boner and with their free hand bashes out mutually exclusive track listings that are so HOT they make a Hawaiian sauna with Mel C and Cameron D look like a dip in Skegness with D Cameron and Merkel.
3. I say Fuck you, the majors don't give a fuck, there'll be sweet Fanny Adams for 3 years and even then it'll be like anal sex, i.e. fucking shit.
4. They respond, No fuck YOU you negativeness cynicalisms fucking wanker, why is you always so whingeful and whiningness and moanables and groaningists, I mean HELLO? Does yer even LIKING New Order? WE WANT OUR BONERS so kindly point yours away from our joint bonfire.
5. The majors don't give a fuck, there's sweet Fanny Adams for 3 years and even then it's like anal sex, i.e. fucking shit.
6. Repeat until you find someone to bone.

Saw 'Box Set' thread. Instantly thought there'd been an announcement.

Saw Michael had gone off at the deep end and started posting on old threads.

Went back to sleep again waiting for a) news to be posted on the (probably disappointing) box set on other sites or b) Michael to inevitably resurrect this thread again, just to p me off. 😊

Oh, and Michael, I've given you enough ammunition for at least one double-entendre ('gone off', 'deep', 'end', 'deep end' and, thinking about it, 'ammunition' now). Go on, I dare you. 😉

I have to go for a whole day without making any innuendoes. It's long and hard but I'll pull it off.

plane crash= MM's random posts.

Michael Monkhouse wrote: I have to go for a whole day without making any innuendoes. It's long and hard but I'll pull it off.

Bravo! I hope that's gone some way to making you feel a little better.

So, just to bring this back on track, what are people hoping for in a box set?

What style of set do you want? Are you hoping for one giant box set and, if so, do you want it with all albums, singles and other miscellaneous tracks, or are you hoping for a box of rarities like the recent Pink Floyd mega-set? Perhaps you're hoping for individual sets, released a few months apart? If so, would you rather 'singles' sets, like the Depeche Mode ones of the 90s? Or do you want better 'album' sets than the ones previousy released, perhaps in the Super Deluxe style of 4-5 discs per set (including album, singles, b-sides, rarities, demos, a live album from the period, DVD of music videos and TV appearances from the era etc.)

And what about actual content? Is there anything specific you really want to see? Audio or video.

Also, do you want JD material included or would you rather a separate set?

I think, preferably, I would absolutely love a giant Rarities box set, full of demos, rare tracks, a rare gig or two on audio and lots of video footage. Failing that, I think I'd like the Super Deluxe album releases option.

As for actual content, I'd like to see an official release of the frankly wonderful Western Works demos, but would pretty much love to see any demos included in the set. Video footage is where I'd like the focus placed though (I really doubt there's many fully-formed audio demos / unreleased tracks out there; most are probably jam-sessions). Video wise, I'd love it to include pretty much all of the live TV performances, especially the 80s stuff (Celebration, Riverside, Countdown, Switch, Musik Convoy, DJ, Pop Elektron, Rock Around The Clock, OGWT, TOTP, The Roxy, BWC etc.). Maybe include the interview segments from some of those appearances too (Countdown, Pop Elektron etc.). And 'Play At Home' definitely needs a release. Would also love to see some of the live footage out there that we have seen before but has been unavailable for years (A Factory Video/Complication/Outing, Estoc De Pop etc.) but also things that we know exist but we've never seen (all of the Glastonbury 81 footage, the Apollo 98 gig etc.). Would be nice to get a few complete gigs as well, especially from the 80s, as there ain't too much of that available.

I know a lot of the TV footage is already out there (on YouTube etc.) but I think it would be great to get this in exceptional quality and just to have it officially released.

In respect of JD, I'm not sure they really need another box set. Audio wise, everything is pretty much covered by Heart & Soul (barring a few early demos, complete RCA, Genetic Demos and Piccadilly Session). I guess, there might be some gigs never bootlegged previously that could be released. I think I'd just rather they realised a DVD of the JD stuff. In fact, I have no idea why they haven't done this already. You could pretty much fit everything there is by JD on a DVD or two.

Consider a DVD with the following:

LWTUA videos (both versions) Atmosphere video Shadowplay on Granada Reports What's On performance of She's Lost Control Something Else performance of Transmission, She's Lost Control plus the Wilson/Morris interview Apollo footage (complete for both nights) Eindhoven footage (all tracks filmed) Bowden Vale footage Plan K gig (the fabled footage) No City Fun film Whitehead film

Those last three things would be monumental and would shift a lot of copies, I feel.
Perhaps the excellent Grant Gee doc could also be included, as that would add some exposition / commentary to the disc(s). In fact, I always thought they missed a trick with that documentary. They had access to the Whitehead movie, the What's On footage and the Plan K gig, but only showed brief clips. Why didn't they release a three disc special edition with all the above footage?

Anyway, thoughts from anyone...

I forgot the other classic: 'There was a great box set years ago by some shitty useless fucking group who never ever had fuck all at all ever to do with New Order ever, so fingers crossed.' One of the strange things about NO is how gems get lost (Let's Go - Waiting For So Long) while crap like The Other Two and Raise The Pressure get full-lown media hype. Freebass' Tower urinates over the EP but is now harder to find than a dry Mel C DVD in my house.

perspexorange wrote:

I think I'd just rather they realised a DVD of the JD stuff. In fact, I have no idea why they haven't done this already. You could pretty much fit everything there is by JD on a DVD or two.

There was going to be a DVD of Here are the Young Men as part of the Control hype but it never etc, maybe because the '''''quality''''' is like a Parkinson's victim holding a Betamax camera through a letterbox in Stoke on Monday morning for a damp tenner. Badly. The Grunt Gee doc is horrible. How much money do these 'anti-commercialists' want to eke out of a corpse? Mind you, it's not quite as cringeworthy as NOStory. Paul Borely sums up everything I hate about mucous journalism and for some reason I've never been able to fathom NO journalism in particular. 'This is the metaphysical narrative extraneous story of New Order, a gleaming axle grease momentous goblin lurking through the murky mucky hills at midnight in a dank dark meadow of Summer leaved ashen bark for greening commerce in prolix peabodies.' Gillian: Yes! Ha ha ha! Steve: Aye lad, something like that. Bernard: I was scared to take over from Ian. It just didn't scare me. Peter: Fuck, cunt. Tony: Manchester was always and would always be Manchester and out of Manchester there came Manchester and its Manchester.

Bernard is probably focused on hypnotizing Tom and phil, so that after he and Steve and gillian retire in about 12 years, Tom and Phil can carry on with vigor and excitement .

A box set should have any missing bits and singles from technique to lost sirens, it should have all the extra bsides ,the best live version of each of the songs since the beginning, including the songs they have not yet played live ,( this will require some studio trickery, or they go outside and just play for about 25 hours ),the recent synth songs from the 4 mif shows, the live shows edited to include the best version of every song played since reforming .

Disc 9 would include songs of other bands played by new order , such as 'sweet judy blue eyes' by Crosby stills, Nash, ' back street girl' by the rolling stones, 'woman of a thousand years' by Fleetwood mac 's Danny Kirwan ,and maybe a duet of gillian and barney singing in spanish 'no time to say goodbye '

And the all 125 minute version of vicious streak

keepitcoming wrote: Bernard is probably focused on hypnotizing Tom and phil... the best live version of each of the songs including the songs they have not yet played live... other bands played by new order , such as 'sweet judy blue eyes' by Crosby stills, Nash, ' back street girl' by the rolling stones, 'woman of a thousand years' by Fleetwood mac 's Danny Kirwan ,and maybe a duet of gillian and barney singing in spanish 'no time to say goodbye '

Ah yes, thanks for reminding me of the other step - the ice on the proverbial cack, so to speak: Just when you think the suggestions can't get any more fucked up, keepjizzcumming drops an E and spouts something almost intelligible about Hooky pulling off Bernard in a Roman bath, Gillian touring Stoke with 367543 rock legends who'd be 5456707507647643600 times more charismatic than her if they weren't dead, and of course a shoal of 37 narwahls bleating prog rock folk mucous off the coast of Shoreditch. More please.

Michael Monkhouse wrote: Just when you think the suggestions can't get any more fucked up, keepjizzcumming drops an E and spouts something almost intelligible

Just when you think the random posts on the box set thread couldn't get any more random, Mr Spunkhouse takes no drugs whatsover but still manages to confuse the bejesus out of the rest of us with his Rik Mayall-on-a-bender style ramblings.

Michael Monkhouse wrote: and of course a shoal of 37 narwahls bleating prog rock folk mucous

Narwahls will forever be associated with just one type of rock. Rock Lobster. (3.23-3.24)

Debaser wrote: Rock Lobster.

I'm a SOLE man.

Boxsets? Boners?

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