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What is NO worst sleeve?

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  • International 6 (14%)
  • Retro 2 (5%)
  • International 1 (2%)
  • Retro 1 (2%)
  • Internationa 1 (2%)
  • Retro 2 (5%)
  • International 1 (2%)
  • Retro 5 (12%)
  • All of the above 23 (55%)

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The "Brotherhood"-sleeve.

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"1963" sleeve, the worst thing Saville ever done.

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by the way, i think the "International" sleeve works very well! when you got the whole CD in your hand it looks pretty decent with the rest kept in white. :nod:

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In the two cd set, both CDs are white. you have to look very closely to find out which one is CD1 and which one is CD2. Mind you, it is not a problem since none will probably end up being played in your CD player.

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Originally posted by Marco Pleil by the way, i think the "International" sleeve works very well! when you got the whole CD in your hand it looks pretty decent with the rest kept in white. :nod:

Well Marco, I've got it and still think it's shitty. The good news is it's not Saville's fault, but rather of a certain Victoria Dawson (or whatever...), as the booklet says "cover illustration Victoria Dawson", so SET YOUR LASERS ON HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On the other hand, maybe she's Saville's corrent missus...

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Oh, and the "International" logo in the booklet's last page (and on the CD surface) is even worse!

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Originally posted by N21 In the two cd set, both CDs are white. you have to look very closely to find out which one is CD1 and which one is CD2. Mind you, it is not a problem since none will probably end up being played in your CD player.

Well I played CD1 several times already! Mind you, as a Greatest Hits colection it ain't that bad. Better than the "(?) The best of", at least...

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Originally posted by JORGE&nbspTEIXEIRA Oh, and the "International" logo in the booklet's last page (and on the CD surface) is even worse!

for the "International"-logo (which is also ON the CD itself) i totally agree!!! :nod:

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Actually.. I don't think the sleeve for Retro sucks at all..

After reading all the debate about that, I like the idea of seeing the eagle as New Order attacking the disco world... and then new wave begins..

As for worst artwork.. I must say, Movement is quite non-artistic, but someone, I think Republic is not a good one.. maybe in 1993 it was something new to do morphing, but otherwise.. what's original on that one!

I still don't get the International sleeve though...

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Originally posted by Spotnick Actually.. I don't think the sleeve for Retro sucks at all.. After reading all the debate about that, I like the idea of seeing the eagle as New Order attacking the disco world... and then new wave begins..As for worst artwork.. I must say, Movement is quite non-artistic, but someone, I think Republic is not a good one.. maybe in 1993 it was something new to do morphing, but otherwise.. what's original on that one!I still don't get the International sleeve though...

There is no further sleeve for "International". It's only the picture you already know, which is also on the front page. The rest is just white, white and white...and song titles.

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:lol:

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Wait... I figured it out! RETRO'S SLEEVE MEANS ABSOLUTELY-NOTHING-AT-FUCKING-ALL!!!!!!!!!!

What am I on about? Well...what do the numbers mean on "Thieves"and "Murder"? Nothing! What do the numbers and letters on "Brotherhood" mean? Zero! What does the leave on "True Faith" mean? Zilch! So...

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Retro looks chard. But I quite like international.

I question the reason for another fuggin best of... but I suppose it's been 7 years since the last one!

7 years and one shat remix lp, get ready and now a cobbled together box set witha fuggin eagle on the front!

Actually I can understand totally now!!!

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Actually the worst newOrder sleeve is "Sub-Culture" because Peter Saville didn't design one for it.

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Originally posted by Monsieur Round&Round Wait... I figured it out!RETRO'S SLEEVE MEANS ABSOLUTELY-NOTHING-AT-FUCKING-ALL!!!!!!!!!!What am I on about? Well...what do the numbers mean on "Thieves"and "Murder"?Nothing!What do the numbers and letters on "Brotherhood" mean?Zero!What does the leave on "True Faith" mean?Zilch!So...

read recently (not sure if on here or in one of the many interviews)that the leaf has personal significance to saville - he had just coe out of a relationship & was sat in his car feeling sad when a leaf fell from a tree & slowly descended onto the car bonnet, that isnt the leaf he used - he got one from hyde park but it inspired the sleeve - which is a personal favoourite of mine.

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Sub-culture for me, too.

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Originally posted by Ricardo "1963" sleeve, the worst thing Saville ever done.

Can I get an amen, brother? Amen!

Uglier'n homemade sin.

And a sorry ripoff of Prince's 1999:

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Originally posted by anita Sub-culture for me, too.

Go with Anita

One of my favourite songs with the worst sleeve ever.

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Surely the old orange and brown BBC peel sessions must have the most rancid looking record sleeve ever designed. (Although a lot of bands had that one inflicted on them.) Stuck out like a sore thumb amongst an otherwise beautifully designed back catalogue.

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Originally posted by Spotnick Actually.. I don't think the sleeve for Retro sucks at all.. After reading all the debate about that, I like the idea of seeing the eagle as New Order attacking the disco world... and then new wave begins..As for worst artwork.. I must say, Movement is quite non-artistic, but someone, I think Republic is not a good one.. maybe in 1993 it was something new to do morphing, but otherwise.. what's original on that one!I still don't get the International sleeve though...

An intriguing spots Nicky Posts. Movement is literally steeped in artistic history. It has design roots from Russian constructivism (it gets very deep) which Saville married with his own contemporary typographic methods of the day. More relevant in light of the release of its closest cousing; Getting Things Ready.

I am unhappy to hear that Marco does not like Brotherhood - surely one of his finest moments.

:hat:

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I don't like State of the Nation Sleeve at all. And though the BLT is made by the same concept, it looks lot's nicer in my eyes.

How about shellshock 7". It's just plain white 'shellshock' written on it. It looks more like the inner sleeve to me.

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Originally posted by Spotnick Actually.. I don't think the sleeve for Retro sucks at all.. After reading all the debate about that, I like the idea of seeing the eagle as New Order attacking the disco world... and then new wave begins..

I love the Retro sleeve; if there were a promotional poster or something of the sort, I'd love to have it. A big-ass print would look so very good in my studio.

I do see the cover differently from Mr. Spotnick, though: the disco ball has hit the floor, the party is over (so get the hell out already), and a bird of prey has come to pick the remains. The perfect metaphor for this collection, n'est ce pas?

I don't have a clear enough scan of the cover...who is reflected in the ball? The photographer, or someone else? That nude guy on eBay?

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"the disco ball has hit the floor, the party is over (so get the hell out already), and a bird of prey has come to pick the remains. The perfect metaphor for this collection, n'est ce pas?"

Yeah! Seems like you have a point there. I Like that one.

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Originally posted by Huntsman An intriguing spots Nicky Posts. Movement is literally steeped in artistic history. It has design roots from Russian constructivism (it gets very deep) which Saville married with his own contemporary typographic methods of the day. :hat:

Surely you mean italian futurism, H?

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Oh shit...not the old "Russian Constructivism vs. Italian Futurism" debate again.

Sigh.

;)

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Here is Sav's first attempt at the International cover. Quite nice, actually.

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Originally posted by Monsieur Round&Round > Originally posted by Huntsman> > > An intriguing spots Nicky Posts. Movement is literally steeped in artistic history. It has design roots from Russian constructivism (it gets very deep) which Saville married with his own contemporary typographic methods of the day. > :hat:

Surely you mean italian futurism, H?

Personally, it looks like a combo of them both. Beat the Red Wedge vs. Futura with the odd shape thrown in.

My original point was that Mole Hunt, whilst looking innocuous (as if it was randomly thrown together like the movie Godzilla), did in actual fact have its style based on historical content. Which must have added a walk to the library for Saville instead of a mail order stock book.

That was a flippant remark, Savsy has the ability to eek out quality, which in itself is an amazing capacity.

Although I am interested in the subject, it isn't the most exciting biscuit in the barrel.

:hat:

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Booty, is that example a genuine effort by Sir Saddle?

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