Michael Monkhouse wrote: Not just times, if they're lucky. Glad this is a 'proper' single and not a one-off like Brutal.
I'm taking this the wrong way, surely, but Brutal was the start of a great 6 years of New Order productivity.
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I meant a full-on single with artwork and mixes as opposed to a single track on an OST featuring crud like the Spice Girls' aborted daughters All Saints and the mind-numbingly overrated Blur. Working Overtime, Rock the Shack, the lyrics to Player in the League... Great years indeed.
Out of interest, i spent a few minutes scanning through the tracks played on various shows on Radio 2 and BBC 6Music over the last couple of weeks to see if Be A Rebel had received much airplay.The only time i found it had been played on Radio 2 was when Zoe Ball premiered it on the breakfast show the day it was released.Shaun Keaveny played it the next day on his 6Music show after the short chat with Steve.Since then absolutely no plays on either station as far as i could find except for Amy Lame on 6Music who played it last Sunday on her afternoon show.Odd.Maybe it'll get more airplay when the physical copies are released in November.
Fotz wrote: Out of interest, i spent a few minutes scanning through the tracks played on various shows on Radio 2 and BBC 6Music over the last couple of weeks to see if Be A Rebel had received much airplay.The only time i found it had been played on Radio 2 was when Zoe Ball premiered it on the breakfast show the day it was released.Shaun Keaveny played it the next day on his 6Music show after the short chat with Steve.Since then absolutely no plays on either station as far as i could find except for Amy Lame on 6Music who played it last Sunday on her afternoon show.Odd.Maybe it'll get more airplay when the physical copies are released in November.
Yes I also had checked last week to see the track listing last week on BBC 2 & 6 and not that much AirPlay. So sad. Such a good song and not that much AirPlay
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LostSiren wrote:
Michael Monkhouse wrote:
Glad this is a 'proper' single and not a one-off like Brutal.
I'm taking this the wrong way, surely, but Brutal was the start of a great 6 years of New Order productivity.
True, it was productive, but I'm not sure how worthwhile a lot of the songs that followed it were, but that 's just my opinion.
Personally speaking, I always think that 'Brutal' kind of set the template for a lot of bland songs that followed:
Brutal 60 Miles An Hour Slow Jam Close Range Sabotage Player In The League Such A Good Thing Who's Joe? Hey Now What You Doing I Told You So Working Overtime I'll Stay With You Hellbent Shake It Up I Got A Feeling
...all sound fairly similar to me. I know some of these are a little bit different (Slow Jam, I Told You So, etc.), but there are definite similarities in a lot of of those tracks.
However, I think the point that Michael was making was that 'Brutal' was just kind of 'thrown out there', with no fanfare, wedged between other artists' tracks on a soundtrack LP. It should be noted as well, that the song is barely heard in the actual film (it was played very quietly on a radio, in the middle of a storm).
A bit of a waste of a song (albeit, not a great one).
At least with 'Be A Rebel', the band have made an effort to promote it, even releasing it on vinyl and CD single. (I still smart at the fact that I paid £15 just to hear 'Brutal' on 'The Beach' soundtrack).
Agreed with most of those songs you’ve listed there, perspex. But I’ve always quite liked , or at least a lot of elements of, Player In The League( great outro), Who’s Joe?( great verses and chorus) and even Slow Jam . I Got A Feeling is also pretty catchy even though the music is old and creeky. The rest though, yeah not great. Thing is, if Peter Hook was still in the band I feel that’s the sort of crap they’d still be putting out.
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perspexorange wrote:
LostSiren wrote:
Michael Monkhouse wrote:
Glad this is a 'proper' single and not a one-off like Brutal.
I'm taking this the wrong way, surely, but Brutal was the start of a great 6 years of New Order productivity.
True, it was productive, but I'm not sure how worthwhile a lot of the songs that followed it were, but that 's just my opinion.
Personally speaking, I always that 'Brutal' kind of set the template for a lot of bland songs that followed:
Brutal 60 Miles An Hour Slow Jam Close Range Sabotage Player In The League Such A Good Thing Who's Joe? Hey Now What You Doing I Told You So Working Overtime I'll Stay With You Hellbent Shake It Up I Got A Feeling
As per Fotz agree with some but not all
Love :
60mph, close range, who’s joe, I’ll stay with you.
Like :
player in the league, hey Now what you doing, hellbent, such a good thing, I told you so (lost sirens version).
Passable:
Brutal, slow jam, sabotage, I got a feeling
New order at their worse:
Working overtime, shake it up, I told you so (WFTSC version) You missed Rock the shack!
All a matter of opinion but good to stimulate some debate.
Yep. It’s good that we’re all different.
To be honest, I don’t dislike all of the songs I listed (for instance I like 60mph and Close Range).
I just think they all fit the same, fairly ordinary, mould.
The Shadow wrote:
perspexorange wrote:
LostSiren wrote:
Michael Monkhouse wrote:
Glad this is a 'proper' single and not a one-off like Brutal.
I'm taking this the wrong way, surely, but Brutal was the start of a great 6 years of New Order productivity.
True, it was productive, but I'm not sure how worthwhile a lot of the songs that followed it were, but that 's just my opinion.
Personally speaking, I always that 'Brutal' kind of set the template for a lot of bland songs that followed:
Brutal 60 Miles An Hour Slow Jam Close Range Sabotage Player In The League Such A Good Thing Who's Joe? Hey Now What You Doing I Told You So Working Overtime I'll Stay With You Hellbent Shake It Up I Got A Feeling
As per Fotz agree with some but not all
Love :
60mph, close range, who’s joe, I’ll stay with you.
Like :
player in the league, hey Now what you doing, hellbent, such a good thing, I told you so (lost sirens version).
Passable:
Brutal, slow jam, sabotage, I got a feeling
New order at their worse:
Working overtime, shake it up, I told you so (WFTSC version) You missed Rock the shack!
All a matter of opinion but good to stimulate some debate.
I personally like all of their songs mostly, it is only when I read the comments here on the forum that I start thinking and over analyzing and starting to think differently and disliking the song. Sadly
I know exactly what you mean about Brutal. It set a template for mediocre dadrock - Hellbent is almost identical. Who's Joe is a gem, though.
Michael Monkhouse wrote: I know exactly what you mean about Brutal. It set a template for mediocre dadrock - Hellbent is almost identical. Who's Joe is a gem, though.
Those are all great songs again but after reading the negative comments here I start thinking otherwise especially from you lollll . You need to start drinking more tropical drinks like pineapple or mango drink with crushed ice to make you chill out and enjoy NO’s music.
Be A Rebel played on Jeremy Vine’s Radio 2 lunchtime show yesterday. Maybe it’s starting finally to pick up more AirPlay.
Linus Solanki wrote:
Michael Monkhouse wrote: I know exactly what you mean about Brutal. It set a template for mediocre dadrock - Hellbent is almost identical. Who's Joe is a gem, though.
Those are all great songs again but after reading the negative comments here I start thinking otherwise especially from you lollll . You need to start drinking more tropical drinks like pineapple or mango drink with crushed ice to make you chill out and enjoy NO’s music.
I was just wondering what happened ti KeepShitCumming.
Fotz wrote: Be A Rebel played on Jeremy Vine’s Radio 2 lunchtime show yesterday. Maybe it’s starting finally to pick up more AirPlay.
Wss on ken bruce today too....he was banging on about them before and after but i've no idea what he said as my manager was talking to me at the time unfortunately
Around 11.15 he played it
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lee wrote:
Fotz wrote: Be A Rebel played on Jeremy Vine’s Radio 2 lunchtime show yesterday. Maybe it’s starting finally to pick up more AirPlay.
Wss on ken bruce today too....he was banging on about them before and after but i've no idea what he said as my manager was talking to me at the time unfortunately
Around 11.15 he played it
Had a listen on catch up. Yeah Ken introduced it as something like “ their first song since Music Complete in 2015. Well obviously the music wasn’t complete as they’ve recorded a new single “. He talked about NO’s 2021 tour with PSB and mentioned the upcoming PCL box set. Ken has now shot up in my estimation as he sounded quite enthusiastic about everything NO related. Nice one, Ken.
GotBlueEyes wrote:
50poundnote wrote: Be A Rebel (Parallel Universe Remix)
haha - this is hilarious. I actually kind of hope this is Hooky trolling Bernard big style
Nobody with ears could deny that it sounds a bazillion percent better like this
He should do the whole of Music Complete too
I see that WMG took that down already, but someone else has done another similar but different (not as good IMO) attempt at adding a Hooky bassline
I suppose NO were asking for it by releasing a single with no bass guitar on it...
GotBlueEyes wrote:
GotBlueEyes wrote:
50poundnote wrote: Be A Rebel (Parallel Universe Remix)
haha - this is hilarious. I actually kind of hope this is Hooky trolling Bernard big style
Nobody with ears could deny that it sounds a bazillion percent better like this
He should do the whole of Music Complete too
I see that WMG took that down already, but someone else has done another similar but different (not as good IMO) attempt at adding a Hooky bassline
I suppose NO were asking for it by releasing a single with no bass guitar on it...
This is superb. Sounds like the attempt of someone trying to stamp their own style al over the song without any filter.
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Have ordered a copy and really looking forward to it now as I recently bought a new stylus for my turntable and the sound is mindblowing.Did a straight replacement of the Ortofon OM5E stylus that originally came with the Pro-Ject Essential 2 turntable I’ve had around 5 years. Think it was well overdue a new stylus and realise now that the tracking might have also been out of alignment for quite a while and may even have done lasting damage to some discs![[:(]](/emoticons/frown.gif){kind=small}
. Re-set the alignment and anti-skate and vinyl sounds beyond words now. Paid £45 for the new Ortofon OM5E stylus but actually wish now I’d upgraded to an Ortofon 2M Blue which I’ve read fantastic reviews of. £185 for that one though so ,maybe one day.But maybe not right now. In the meantime , the Ortofon OM 5E has made me conclude vinyl really is the best format for sound quality . The separation of instruments, the bass and treble and the sheer richness of sound has finished the argument for me over vinyl ,CD or Digital . Always been a bit undecided before but a really good stylus and correct alignment has left me gobsmacked ![[:)]](/emoticons/smile.gif){kind=small}
. Oops I’ve rambled and gone off topic.
I'm waiting for the CD Single.
The more I hear this record the more I really, really like it.
It's a cool tune.
perspexorange wrote: I'm waiting for the CD Single.
if there is one, it will probably have all the mixes on it.
but the european versions in the past had all the mixes, when the UK ones sometimes didn't.
later -1
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I finally heard it yesterday. Don’t ask me why...
Good but generic. Or generic but good. Reminds me of the first time I heard Here To Stay somehow. Not destined to be a classic, but I kind of like it. Any news is good news in these times...
And can you find anything non-generic these days, after all?
I’ve heard it a few times on Absolute Radio as well in case that hasn’t been mentioned.
I hope there isn’t going to be a Japanese cd with a remix that’s not on iTunes. ![[nono]](/emoticons/nono.gif){kind=small}
rosygale wrote: I’ve heard it a few times on Absolute Radio as well in case that hasn’t been mentioned.
I hope there isn’t going to be a Japanese cd with a remix that’s not on iTunes.
Yep. That’s pretty annoying. Hoping that the standard UK CD single will have all the remixes.
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