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I would be interested at the time, if it came with yet another unreleased tracks. The regular shaped 7" was enough for me

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Mr. Disco wrote:

Somehow I managed to get the instrumentals, but it isn't even listed on Discogs. I only found this one with the extended instrumentals, which I've never heard about: https://www.discogs.com/pt\_BR/New-Order-Complete-Music-Extended-Instrumentals/release/9966702

Any idea where I can get hold of copies of the Instrumentals (the extended ones or just the normal ones)?

Were they ever made available to buy?

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Fotz wrote:

Oh and digital files of the Weatherall dub of Restless , Radio edits of all the album tracks and Tutti Frutti STEMS ( didn’t bother with the Academic one)

When you say 'radio edits of all the album tracks', are you just referring to the singles, or were there radio edits for every track? As far as I knew, there were radios edits of Restless, Singularity and Tutti Frutti, plus two radio edits of POTHL (Claptone & Richard X).

Are there any others?

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perspexorange wrote:

Fotz wrote:

Oh and digital files of the Weatherall dub of Restless , Radio edits of all the album tracks and Tutti Frutti STEMS ( didn’t bother with the Academic one)

When you say 'radio edits of all the album tracks', are you just referring to the singles, or were there radio edits for every track? As far as I knew, there were radios edits of Restless, Singularity and Tutti Frutti, plus two radio edits of POTHL (Claptone & Richard X).

Are there any others?

Well, like i said, all the album tracks.God you're a doubting Thomas at times aren't you.All the album tracks have a couple of minutes or more chopped out.Some more expertly done than others.In places some tracks just jump from one part to another.Other sections are done better or even rearranged a little.I suppose anyone who knows how do it could do it if they have the right software or something.No idea who did the edits.Think i only ever listened to it once or twice, will have to give it another spin.I'll send it to you

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perspexorange wrote: When you say 'radio edits of all the album tracks', are you just referring to the singles, or were there radio edits for every track? As far as I knew, there were radios edits of Restless, Singularity and Tutti Frutti, plus two radio edits of POTHL (Claptone & Richard X).

Are there any others?

If you're considering remixes, there were the Mark Reeder's edits for both his mixes for Academic and The Game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZBCON9rNs8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJgFb6ImQJ8

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Fotz wrote: God you're a doubting Thomas at times aren't you.

Probably, but keep your hair on! I was just seeking clarification.

To be fair, I've never heard of radio edits of the non-album tracks and you didn't mention where these were featured.

It just seemed odd to me that they would do radio edits of every track. Hence my question. I just wondered if you made a typo (I do loads). That seemed (to me) more likely than the band doing radio edits for every single track (especially when I hadn't previously even heard of these).

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perspexorange wrote:

Fotz wrote: God you're a doubting Thomas at times aren't you.

Probably, but keep your hair on! I was just seeking clarification.

To be fair, I've never heard of radio edits of the non-album tracks and you didn't mention where these were featured.

It just seemed odd to me that they would do radio edits of every track. Hence my question. I just wondered if you made a typo (I do loads). That seemed (to me) more likely than the band doing radio edits for every single track (especially when I hadn't previously even heard of these).

Well I get the feeling the band had nothing to do with it but of course I can’t say for sure . I’m assuming they were done by someone in their bedroom who knows how to edit tracks using some sort of programme ? I think I must have stumbled across them on Soulseek, can’t remember for sure now.Anyway I’ve uploaded it to that Shared Drive. I think. I may have just shared it with myself, who knows! 😄 Give us a shout if it’s not in there.

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Cheers. I’ll pull them down tomorrow.

I guess if they are ‘fan made’, that would explain why I hadn’t heard of them.

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Mr. Disco wrote: I would be interested at the time, if it came with yet another unreleased tracks. The regular shaped 7" was enough for me

uncut picture discs are just that, they don't have any different tracks. they are the full size (usually round), before they get cut into smaller or different shapes.

perspexorange wrote:

Mr. Disco wrote:

Somehow I managed to get the instrumentals, but it isn't even listed on Discogs. I only found this one with the extended instrumentals, which I've never heard about: https://www.discogs.com/pt\_BR/New-Order-Complete-Music-Extended-Instrumentals/release/9966702

Any idea where I can get hold of copies of the Instrumentals (the extended ones or just the normal ones)?

Were they ever made available to buy?

people in the US (maybe in other countries?) can get all the STEMS here, and just disable the vocals.

reference post : https://www.facebook.com/muterecords/posts/get-creative-with-new-order-stems-by-native-instruments-is-the-open-multi-track-/10156258910840510/

store: https://www.junodownload.com/products/new-order-complete-music/3096789-02/

i had a few threads:

  1. the extended instrumentals
  2. the album edit instrumentals recreated because they were available for licensing, but no one could get them.

perspexorange wrote: Cheers. I’ll pull them down tomorrow.

I guess if they are ‘fan made’, that would explain why I hadn’t heard of them.

i think someone here on the board made them, use the search function for that.

also, there are tons of digital DJ only releases that were mentioned, here are some of them:

from my recycle 2 project:

recycle 2 - series 6 - set 1 - restless

here's an early list of mixes to be included: restless (agoria dub) 6:09 cd, dig restless (agoria mix) 6:48 v, cd restless (andrew weatherall dub) 7:13 dig restless (andrew weatherall mix) 7:47 v, cd, dig restless (andrew weatherall instrumental mix) 7:49 dig restless (album) 5:28 v, cd, dig, cs restless (extended) 9:30 v, cd, dig restless (extended 12 inch mix) 8:14 v, cd restless (extended mix) 7:09 v, cd, dig restless (rac isntrumental mix) 6:38 dig restless (rac mix) 6:44 v, cd restless (radio edit) 3:29 cd restless (single version) 4:31 v, cd restless (xxxy build up mix) 6:47 v, cd restless (xxxy dub) 6:47 dig

recycle 2 - series 6 - set 2 - tutti frutti

tutti frutti (album) 6:22 v, cd, dig, cs tutti frutti (12 inch mix 2) 7:30 v, cd, dig tutti frutti (extended) 8:05 v, dig tutti frutti (hallo halo remix) 7:02 v, cd, dig tutti frutti (hallo halo remix instrumental) 11:43 dig tutti frutti (hot chip remix) 11:44 cd, dig tutti frutti (hot chip remix edit) 8:55 v tutti frutti (hot chip remix instrumental)11:43 dig tutti frutti (radio edit) 3:40 cd tutti frutti (radio remix) 3:47 cd tutti frutti (richy ahmed remix) 9:02 v, cd, dig tutti frutti (richy ahmed remix instrumental) 9:02 dig tutti frutti (single version) 4:17 cd, dig tutti frutti (takkyu ishino remix) 7:54 v, dig tutti frutti (tom rowlands remix) 7:41 cd, dig tutti frutti (tom tragos crazy days remix) 10:31 v, cd, dig tutti frutti (tom tragos crazy days remix instrumental) 10:31 dig

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Oh, another one i forgot I even had.The Qwest 12” of True Faith. The 2 Pettibone remixes and 1963. Though one of the Pettibone remixes is named Alternate Faith Dub. Is that the same as the one on the UK remix 12” but just a different title ? Can’t remember now without giving it a spin. No idea where or when I obtained this.

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some of my low life collection, some promos, some japanese cd's, uk cd, and US vinyl:

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^ liking the vinyl edition with the track listing to the right on back cover on the tracing paper ( looks like a Qwest logo at bottom)

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a couple of clear vinyl:

  1. In order promo - 12 inch mixes, orange vinyl (CD is single versions)
  2. Factus 8 EP - US clear vinyl Record store day

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Mr. Disco wrote: https://www.discogs.com/Lee-Coombs-Breakfast-Of-Champions/master/111540

Personally, I've found it more polished and less edgy than his mix on the regular single back in 2001

interesting haven't heard about this before.

will have to add it to the list.

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negative1 wrote:

Mr. Disco wrote: https://www.discogs.com/Lee-Coombs-Breakfast-Of-Champions/master/111540

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRSCRf\_ZPxI

Personally, I've found it more polished and less edgy than his mix on the regular single back in 2001

interesting haven't heard about this before.

will have to add it to the list.

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It's had plenty of discussion in the past... Personally I prefer his single (remix) version. Having said that, I was a big fan of all the "Nu Skool Breaks" dance stuff that was around back then. Including Lee Coombs stuff. I like the whole album (pronounced Break fast... as in "Breaks" music)

Coombs also did yet another remix of the track about a year after the song was released. But that remix only ever got played in a DJ set he did for BBC Radio 1. I guess he still had the parts and used that (2003) remix as bait to make us listen to his DJ mix for the BBC.

*EDIT* I mentioned it here post #42 on p2 I *did* have a radio rip of it on my hard drive, but eh, that hard drive has since died...

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Debaser wrote:

negative1 wrote:

Mr. Disco wrote: https://www.discogs.com/Lee-Coombs-Breakfast-Of-Champions/master/111540

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRSCRf\_ZPxI

Personally, I've found it more polished and less edgy than his mix on the regular single back in 2001

interesting haven't heard about this before.

will have to add it to the list.

later -1

It's had plenty of discussion in the past... Personally I prefer his single (remix) version. Having said that, I was a big fan of all the "Nu Skool Breaks" dance stuff that was around back then. Including Lee Coombs stuff. I like the whole album (pronounced Break fast... as in "Breaks" music)

Coombs also did yet another remix of the track about a year after the song was released. But that remix only ever got played in a DJ set he did for BBC Radio 1. I guess he still had the parts and used that (2003) remix as bait to make us listen to his DJ mix for the BBC.

*EDIT* I mentioned it here post #42 on p2 I *did* have a radio rip of it on my hard drive, but eh, that hard drive has since died...

i saw that, but didn't know anything about it, and still don't.

maybe someone else can chime in about it.

later -1

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Well, thinking about it, it was reasonably similar to the Breakfast of Champions (BOC) mix that came out in 2004. So I guess it could be callled an early version of the BOC mix.

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i guess we can throw other things in here... subway poster for factus 8 - 60x40 in, not sure where i got it or how much, getting senile...

yardstick for scale, its 36 inches

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I had one of those, subway size and all. Got mine at university in the 90s. Died of overuse a few years later.

One that has survived is my subway "Temptation" Ally Pally NYE 1999 poster.

Similar to this

Slightly less cool but certainly more unique was a huge London Records 3D foam display for "Republic" that I annoyed 78s Records in Perth into giving me in 1993. The street gymnastics it took for me to get that miles down the road into a truck in one piece in high velocity Perth winds should've won me some fan award.

It was quite the party piece until someone drunkenly bowled into it in 1996. Kind of fitting maybe. Wish I at least had a damn photo of it now.

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Posters, yes I had a few back in the 80s but one reason and another they’re now all long gone. Guess the idea of having posters on my wall was something I grew out of. I had that Factus 8 one, it covered almost ceiling height to floor on my bedroom wall at the house I grew up in. Also even had Thieves Like Us one. And one with 1981 era photos of the 4 band members. Also had a massive one of the Low Life cover. Oh and a Perfect Kiss one( with a kind of a theme based on the video). Slightly annoying I no longer have any of them.

Edit: The Perfect Kiss poster was something like this , though from Googling, there’s a few variations on it

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Yeah, had LowLife, Electronic and that Benelux poster up, but it's a bit adolescent innit? 'They're me favourite band!'

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depthcharge wrote: I had one of those, subway size and all. Got mine at university in the 90s. Died of overuse a few years later.

One that has survived is my subway "Temptation" Ally Pally NYE 1999 poster.

Similar to this

Slightly less cool but certainly more unique was a huge London Records 3D foam display for "Republic" that I annoyed 78s Records in Perth into giving me in 1993. The street gymnastics it took for me to get that miles down the road into a truck in one piece in high velocity Perth winds should've won me some fan award.

It was quite the party piece until someone drunkenly bowled into it in 1996. Kind of fitting maybe. Wish I at least had a damn photo of it now.

nice, interesting stories about those.

the first link doesn't work though.

later -1

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here's the very busy promo poster for singles...

later -1

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☝️ complete with 1988 Brazilian "Tutti Frutti" promo 12" sleeve image, which never should have been on there IMHO.

EDIT oops, I mean '89. I don't think I've ever heard these medleys/Megamixes

discogs

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Debaser wrote: ☝️ complete with 1988 Brazilian "Tutti Frutti" promo 12" sleeve image, which never should have been on there IMHO.

EDIT oops, I mean '89. I don't think I've ever heard these medleys/Megamixes

discogs

was just about to ask about that. another thing to try to hunt down someday.

later -1

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Framed pixelated version of the 12"s montage they did for New Order 30.

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