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2xlp vinyl versions are up also.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CHTZ9KB5?tag=shtv-20
looks like you'll have to make your own boxset for it.
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Very disappointing for us vinyl types that after all this time we're only getting a 2LP set :(
3*12"s released :
That Twitter video link says ‘featuring b-sides’ and ‘available on vinyl for the first time’.
I can’t make out if the two sentences are meant to be read as one or separately.
If the former, I don’t think the b-sides are on the vinyl, are they? If the latter, ‘Substance’ has been available on vinyl before.
Or have I completely misunderstood?
Glad the 12”s are being released. It will be a bit odd to have these three released before State and BLT. But, no problem. Presumably, Touched will get released either alongside Brotgerhood or Technique.
perspexorange wrote: That Twitter video link says ‘featuring b-sides’ and ‘available on vinyl for the first time’.
I can’t make out if the two sentences are meant to be read as one or separately.
If the former, I don’t think the b-sides are on the vinyl, are they? If the latter, ‘Substance’ has been available on vinyl before.
Or have I completely misunderstood?
Glad the 12”s are being released. It will be a bit odd to have these three released before State and BLT. But, no problem. Presumably, Touched will get released either alongside Brotgerhood or Technique.
It says the first time in 30 years
Ah. Sorry. Was watching it play in a small window and didn’t realise words had been cut off on the bottom of the video.
My bad. As you were…
A Red & Blue vinyl is available too from a few limited suppliers.
https://www.roughtrade.com/gb/product/new-order/substance-agp2cm#vinyl-lp-red-plus-x2
yes, already ordered the mega deluxe bundle, along with colored vinyl.
nice seeing the cassettes coming back, along with some posters, tshirts, and the 12 inch singles too.
very good deal.
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New Order announce ‘Substance 1987’ collection reissues
New Order have announced reissued editions of their classic compilation album ‘Substance 1987’ – find all the details below.
Originally released via the legendary Factory Records, the record featured all of the Manchester band’s singles up to that point in their 12″ forms, as well as many of their respective B-sides.
‘Substance 1987’ also contained newly-recorded versions of the songs ‘Temptation’ and Confusion’. Other tracks that appeared as part of the collection included ‘Blue Monday’, ‘Bizarre Love Triangle’ and ‘Ceremony’.
Today (September 13) New Order have detailed a remastered set of formats of ‘Substance 1987’, which are due for release on November 10 via Warner. You can pre-order your copy here.
“We’re pleased to announce the remastered and reissued edition of ‘Substance’ on vinyl for the first time in 30 years,” the group wrote alongside a preview video on social media.
Additionally, fans will be able to purchase the 2023 version of the album in the following formats: 2CD, 4CD deluxe edition, 2LP blue/red coloured vinyl (retail exclusive), and double cassette.
Reissues of the 12″ singles ‘True Faith’, ‘True Faith (Remix)’ and ‘Blue Monday 88’ are on offer too, all of which have been remastered.
The 4CD version includes the original 2CD set, remastered with two additional CDs. CD3 expands the collection with alternate versions and extra B-sides. CD4 features an unreleased concert, ‘Live From Irvine Meadows Amphitheatre, California 1987’, where New Order played the entire album in sequence.
‘Substance 1987’ is the group’s biggest-selling album to date. It is regarded as one of the best-ever ‘Greatest Hits’ compilations, with Rolling Stone twice including it in its ‘500 Greatest Albums Of All Time’ list, first in 2003 and later in 2012.
Back in 2020, ‘Substance 1987′ returned to online streaming services after being removed five years prior.
Meanwhile, New Order are set to kick off their 2023 European and UK arena tour next Thursday (September 21). See the full schedule below, and find any remaining tickets here.
SEPTEMBER 21– Royal Arena, Copenhagen 23 – Ziggo Dome, Amsterdam 26 – Zénith, Paris 29 – The O2, London
OCTOBER 1 – 3Arena, Dublin 5 – OVO Hydro, Glasgow 7 – First Direct Arena, Leeds
neil larkcom wrote: …£180 spent… Sucked in by the limited cassette and poster
Mmmm Make that £240!!! Sneaky coloured vinyl….
There is a problem with the track list on the official store!
CD 3
Ceremony (Original) Mesh Ceremony (12”) Confusion (Original 12”) Dub Vulture Shellcock Bizarre Dub Triangle True Dub Confusion (Dub 87) True Faith (Remix)
Johnny James wrote:
Mr Discography wrote:
Why are the live versions of Shellshock and Subculture labelled as 'Substance Edits' - edited to fit on CD4, or a tracklist mistake?
The listings leaked so far seem to be from an early draft that we've now corrected, it's also not in San Bernadino. The fact that they say TPK is a Substance Edit shows that it's a copy and paste mistake.....
However, by coincidence, the live Subculture/Shellshock have in fact been edited, the artwork will explain (Subculture comes along around the 45 minute mark ;).
First few seconds of "Shellshock" missing on my boot (presumably down to a tape flip). I was hoping this official version would be from a better source.
Interested to see if all the between-song banter will make the cut (such as Bernard's question to the audience before "The Passenger"/"True Faith")...
Interesting that the cassette reissue has the original 2CD tracklist rather than the longer 1987 cassette tracklist. Understandable, as I had to buy the tape twice as cassette two was so long it got chewed up several times (thinner tape)!
Being of the camp that did not think that a "Definitive Edition" box set was warranted for a "Substance" reissue, I am glad that the band decided to reissue it as a standalone release. With this being a popular title for more casual fans of New Order, I imagine this will sell rather well.
Johnny James - Why wasn't a "Touched by the Hand of God" single released in conjunction with the "True Faith" and "Blue Monday 88" singles? With it having been released in 1987 and having "Substance" related B-sides on the CD single, I thought it would make more sense to reissue it with "Substance" versus "Brotherhood" or "Technique."
-Mike
Johnny, is the live disc sourced from the soundboard, or is it the audience recording that's circulated?
A bit disappointed that there isn’t a dvd or blu ray included
Was there really no useable concert video material?
I still haven't got round to buying the original Substance so not much chance with this. I objected to the 87 versions - I know, moan moan moan.
The Ruts wrote: https://twitter.com/neworder/status/1701943814846607411
Lets give that an embed.
[TWITTER]1701943814846607411[/TWITTER]
so, the colored vinyl is being picked up by bullmoose, and a few other sellers now.
interestingly, they are saying that it is a Record Store Release, so maybe copies are being allocated for that also.
Colored transparent vinyl shouldn't sound any worse than black, because black is just a color too.
Now if was these bootleg (counterfeit) marbled ones, thats a different story, maybe those were lathe cuts.
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Mr Discography wrote: Interesting that the cassette reissue has the original 2CD tracklist rather than the longer 1987 cassette tracklist. Understandable, as I had to buy the tape twice as cassette two was so long it got chewed up several times (thinner tape)!
It will replicate the original cassette tracklist, Murder on Tape 1 and a few of the CD3 tracks on Tape 2. There are a few tracklist errors that we're trying to iron out in the press etc.
steinomite wrote: Being of the camp that did not think that a "Definitive Edition" box set was warranted for a "Substance" reissue, I am glad that the band decided to reissue it as a standalone release. With this being a popular title for more casual fans of New Order, I imagine this will sell rather well.
Johnny James - Why wasn't a "Touched by the Hand of God" single released in conjunction with the "True Faith" and "Blue Monday 88" singles? With it having been released in 1987 and having "Substance" related B-sides on the CD single, I thought it would make more sense to reissue it with "Substance" versus "Brotherhood" or "Technique."
-Mike
They wanted to do BM because it's the 40th anniversary.
Doing 3 now and 3 with Brotherhood also works ok, perhaps the sequencing is a bit out, but in the end that doesn't make much difference.
50poundnote wrote: Johnny, is the live disc sourced from the soundboard, or is it the audience recording that's circulated?
https://www.mdmarchive.co.uk/artefact/2560/NEW_ORDER_MASTER_TAPE_1987
Here is the master, an old and mouldy desk tape.
Johnny James wrote:
50poundnote wrote: Johnny, is the live disc sourced from the soundboard, or is it the audience recording that's circulated?
https://www.mdmarchive.co.uk/artefact/2560/NEW_ORDER_MASTER_TAPE_1987
Here is the master, an old and mouldy desk tape.
Any chance of a release of the other 3 songs at that gig ??
the superdeluxedition article :
https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/new-order-substance-1987-reissue/
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Really minor point, and a very anal point to make, but I hope the duration of the gaps between the tracks has been kept the same as the original Substance release. I know the original so well, that I'll expect Subculture to kick in the very moment that odd "goblin" (or whatever it is) sound effect stops at the end of The Perfect Kiss', rather than have two seconds of silence between the tracks. I've often wondered if remastered albums preserve the original length of silences between the tracks.
Johnny, has this version of Substance been mastered specifically as its own album from the original Substance master tapes, or does it just complie the individual versions of singles that have already been remastered as their own recent digital re-eleases without any further mastering or level adjusting?
Ordered the red/blue vinyl yesterday from Rough Trade. £59.83 inc. faster/tracked delivery. And just ordered 4CD, plus 3 x 12"s from Amazon.co.uk. £73.96 with Prime, plus 'lowest price' guarantee.
Was tempted by the t-shirt, but decided against it for he time being.
A lot of money spent, but the LP is worth it. Best compilation ever? Probably.
Col72 wrote:
Johnny James wrote:
50poundnote wrote: Johnny, is the live disc sourced from the soundboard, or is it the audience recording that's circulated?
https://www.mdmarchive.co.uk/artefact/2560/NEW_ORDER_MASTER_TAPE_1987
Here is the master, an old and mouldy desk tape.
Any chance of a release of the other 3 songs at that gig ??
It would require an additional disc, which is surely why they decided against it.
A nice gesture for completists would be to make them available for download, but that seems an unlikely prospect.
