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I was bored and having a look through my vast collection of CD's and was shocked by how many of them were written by northerners (ie north of Birmingham). I have to admit I do consider myself very much a 'laahhnndaner' and yet seem to have grown a penchant for northern music.
New Order particuarly seem to be touted as being a very northern band. I just don't think us southern jessies are capable of creating decent heartfelt music
Alright Seb? You might as well move oop norf if most of your music collection is from up here.... Our beer and almost everything else is much cheaper too. As well as people being much friendlier (apart from myself of course) up here n all
Are any of you familiar with 'Terence Trent Amusements', a travelling fun-fair, from mancland??? I have an interesting story about them lads... ... ...
He's right you know.
If you were on a train up North and you ran out of sandwiches from your little tuck-box... just look around like you've ran out of sandwiches and somebody will doubtless wander over and go...
"Now then, I see you've used up your supplies too quickly for the journeys end"
"Here, would you like to share a pastie or dip into one of my eggs. Either one or tuther, it dunt matter ey-up ecky thump etc."
"Ear, you from down South?... I had an uncle that moved there in World War 2 and to this day I never did take his phone number down for future communications purposes"
"Anyway, enjoy your egg or bread"
I went to Manchester to watch the mighty stags (vs Bury I think) and there was a bin on fire. Everyone was just walking past it as though it was an everyday occurence. That sort of turned me off it a bit. If a firework goes off down here the Underground is closed on a 'Security Alert'
I did live up north for a while (hence my Mansfield connection) and have to admit I wasn't that keen. Partly coz Everyone took the piss out of my voice, and partly coz everything eaten up there is covered in gravy/custard
What's wrong with gravy/custard?
It's chuffin marvellous.... Any meal is incomplete without gravy or custard which is so thick you have to cut through it.... I'd much rather have gravy or custard on food than some of that tomato/brown sauce or gayonnaise that you Southern lot seem to delight in smearing all over your consumables
But what do I know....
It rains a lot as well.
P.S. Good to meet you at Brixton Hookster...I managed to get right in front of Barney on the fence at the front. I was absoloutley dripping with sweat by the end of it...Highlight for me was Transmission/Temptation.great show
Originally posted by Seb Briggs It rains a lot as well.P.S. Good to meet you at Brixton Hookster...I managed to get right in front of Barney on the fence at the front. I was absoloutley dripping with sweat by the end of it...Highlight for me was Transmission/Temptation.great show
Likewise Seb; sorry I wasn't more talkative when you came and said hi in the Beehive... I was a bit taken aback when a stranger came up and tapped me on the shoulder and said 'hi, are you hooky monster' or something like that.
I too got down the front against the barrier. I spent most of the gig looking right up Hooky's bass, along with getting squashed and banging the hell out of everyone around me.... But that's what being at the front of a gig is all about really.
P.S. Good job I love rain, living in Manchester
This thread seems as good as any to raise the genius of The Macc Lads.
Who can forget their timeles paean to the ladyfolk of a small spa town in Derbyshire, "Buxton Scabby Women" (sung, of course, to the tune of "Nutbush City Limits").
On the Norf/Sarf divide, I can't actually think of any really cool band ever to have emerged from London, and if anyone says The Clash they can whistle
Originally posted by Ken Brough This thread seems as good as any to raise the genius of The Macc Lads.Who can forget their timeles paean to the ladyfolk of a small spa town in Derbyshire, "Buxton Scabby Women" (sung, of course, to the tune of "Nutbush City Limits").On the Norf/Sarf divide, I can't actually think of any really cool band ever to have emerged from London, and if anyone says The Clash they can whistle
Wasn't it, "Beer and Chips and Sex and Gravy is all a Macc lad needs"?
vague memories of 6th form...
Liv
Originally posted by Ken Brough This thread seems as good as any to raise the genius of The Macc Lads.Who can forget their timeles paean to the ladyfolk of a small spa town in Derbyshire, "Buxton Scabby Women" (sung, of course, to the tune of "Nutbush City Limits").On the Norf/Sarf divide, I can't actually think of any really cool band ever to have emerged from London, and if anyone says The Clash they can whistle
Weren't The Sex Pistols from Larnden? I thought they were pretty cool, and ahead of their time
Underworld and, even occasionally Blur have had their moments. Faithless are Lahndan boys and gals. Bar that...Jack
On the subject of the North/South divide, lest we forget the bit in the middle known as "Da Midlands". I reckon me, Broughie, Liv and that other bloke on here from Ilkeston, (oh, and Tim Jauncey whever he resides these days) should get together and knock all yer fookin' heads together.
The Order Midlands Massive. Or summat.
Actually, sod that: rain down sweet bombs on Slough. And that useless cockney shithole a bit further to the East, ta!
M.
Let me just mention a few midlands towns....
Dudley Wolverhampton Chesterfield Stafford Coventry Leicester Newark Worksop Tamworth Milton Keynes
None of these places are acceptable in any way whatsoever. Drop the bombs on Slough by all means..I had the misfortune to work there for a couple of years...but not until the above have been decimated.
By Northeners I take it you mean as far north as Manchester? Being Scottish it's embarassing that more great bands have come from one city than a whole country. It's grim up North (in Scotland)
I hate to admit it, althought i quite like Derbyshire, im in agreement with Seb....many midlands towns should be sacrificed....
I don't really count in this debate as Im a Welsh -lass....
And if anyone feels like starting on me cause of that, im up for it... c'mon then....
Liv
Since when was Milton Fucking Keynes in the Midlands???? I guess its all the same north of Watford, right???
M.
I quite like Derbyshire too Liv...Chesterfields just a sad football type hatred (i.e Mansfield's local rivals)
Originally posted by martin fradley Since when was Milton Fucking Keynes in the Midlands???? I guess its all the same north of Watford, right???M.
Wrong. So where do you define the south end of the midlands then?
S.
Originally posted by Seb Briggs I quite like Derbyshire too Liv...Chesterfields just a sad football type hatred (i.e Mansfield's local rivals)
I do actually quite like the sarf...
For all you Northerners, I shall be going to confession later and will flagilate myself for this appalling confession....
*hangs head in shame*
Liv
Adding fuel to the fire is OK. so long as said flames are consuming the soulless dump that is M.K.. So we're all in agreement on that one!!
South end of the Midlands?? For me, I guess, no further south than Northampton. And even that's pushing it.
The reasons for my dislike of the SouthEast corner of our septic isle are largely irrational, many fuelled by hopeless footy rivalries, but Seb's right than many towns in the north are dumps. But, of course, they're dumps 'cos they're socio-economically downtrodden, and have been for decades, if not centuries, which makes the affluence of the south east all the uglier, and its elitism all the more abhorrent. The recent(ish) "race riots" had very little to do with "race" per se (though you wouldn't know it by the way the national -ie, London-based - media reported it), but they had everything to do with sections of society pushed to the bottom of the social pile, and then getting understandably pissed off about it. If I lived in Bradford, I'd be out burning cars and chucking bricks at coppers every fucking night!!
[Leaps off soapbox with righteous anger).
M.
OK, without sounding all feeble..fair enough. MK is shite. Thats accepted. I personally feel the 'midlands' covers a much larger region but.....
The fact is 9 million odd people, and virtually all media is based in London...so obviously there is a bias there. What I've generally found is that Londoners in general are far more plaesant friendlier people than the rest of the SOuth East, and i do admit to having a certain pride in saying I'm from London..but each to their own.
I did actually live for a number of years in Warwick so I'm not your archetypal 'No England outside London' type of person.
As regarding race riots nad such like..Brixton wasn't all that long ago, and there was a similar furore kicked up about that at the time. Likewise London's hardly the wealthy, comfortable silver spoon up arse type place that many think it is...take a trip to Elephant and Castle/Peckham/Hounslow etc and there is just as much depravity there as anywhere else in the country
And likewise, I don't think the north is a dump-far from it. Give me Manchester / Yorkshire / Nottinghamshire over fuckin' Surrey or Berkshire any day
No: I didn't have a ticket, and having braved standing/sitting with rabid Burslem folk at the veritable Theatre of Comedy that is Vale Park in the past, I could live without fearing for my life again. I have stared death in the face, and it wears a black and white Vale replica top.
Content with the result, however.
Quite happy to let the whole North/South bit drop: I guess Sebs'll be in agreement with me that the whole thing is far too complex to even scrape the surface on this forum. Anyway, this is no place for needless point-scoring tantrums, fragile egos and pointlessly aggressive arguments.
Save that for "Ceremony". 'Arf.
[NB: this is NOT a cue for our Fr.-Can. friends to get all sumg, OK.....????]
M.
London's done some great bands for the music scene (The Who, Blur, aforementioned Sex Pistols) but if you want greatness, you gotta go north of the Thames. The Beatles, Echo, and some other great stuff came out of Liverpool, you've got the Jesus and Mary Chain from ole Scotland, and of course, the Manchester sound, as popularized by the Buzzcocks, carried thru by JD/NO and the Smiths, and brought into decline (Think "Caligula" on Ice) with Oasis. Maybe it's something in the water......
PS I'm a Southerner here in the US, the "backwards" tag is labelled on us like it is with Northerners in the UK. Go figure.......
Originally posted by martin fradley No: Quite happy to let the whole North/South bit drop: I guess Sebs'll be in agreement with me that the whole thing is far too complex to even scrape the surface on this forum. Anyway, this is no place for needless point-scoring tantrums, fragile egos and pointlessly aggressive arguments.Save that for "Ceremony". 'Arf. [NB: this is NOT a cue for our Fr.-Can. friends to get all sumg, OK.....????]M.
Sounds cool to me..never meant to be a north/south divide topic..in fact the original post was a tribute to northern music.
Obviously, like anyone I reckon,I do get a bit sensitive when anyone slags off your homeplace.
If 'tup north is so bloody great,then why does everyone descend on my neck of the woods then,especially during summer?? You can't move for Mancs and Scousers sunning themselves. ;) It's bad enough with all the geriatricks retireing down here,driving round in their bloody Nissan Micras ,doing 20mph!!
Originally posted by chris p If 'tup north is so bloody great,then why does everyone descend on my neck of the woods then,especially during summer?? You can't move for Mancs and Scousers sunning themselves. ;)It's bad enough with all the geriatricks retireing down here,driving round in their bloody Nissan Micras ,doing 20mph!!
Hey,I'm only joking. ;) My boss is from Wolverhampton and I can't understand a bloody word he says half the time.To be honest,there is a real dirth of decent bands from these parts.The only person whose made it is probably Craig David, and the bass player from Blur. Wowee.
If there's one thing I hate, it's f**king tourists...... Always coming down here, "Oh, it's so lovely down here". Pompous jackasses...oh sorry, what were we discussing again?
Originally posted by Huntsman You said it cat face.
...."Cat Face"??? Yeeee hahhahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!!!!
That is funny...... Dunno why...it just is... you crack me up, mate!!!
Originally posted by Huntsman He's right you know.If you were on a train up North and you ran out of sandwiches from your little tuck-box... just look around like you've ran out of sandwiches and somebody will doubtless wander over and go..."Now then, I see you've used up your supplies too quickly for the journeys end""Here, would you like to share a pastie or dip into one of my eggs. Either one or tuther, it dunt matter ey-up ecky thump etc.""Ear, you from down South?... I had an uncle that moved there in World War 2 and to this day I never did take his phone number down for future communications purposes""Anyway, enjoy your egg or bread"
That's dead right too..... and then , of course everybody in the carriage starts donning flat caps, whipping out their.....um........whippets.... and start belting out Lisa Stansfield songs all in unison.
Originally posted by Seb Briggs I went to Manchester to watch the mighty stags (vs Bury I think) and there was a bin on fire. Everyone was just walking past it as though it was an everyday occurence. That sort of turned me off it a bit. If a firework goes off down here the Underground is closed on a 'Security Alert'I did live up north for a while (hence my Mansfield connection) and have to admit I wasn't that keen. Partly coz Everyone took the piss out of my voice, and partly coz everything eaten up there is covered in gravy/custard
Actually you will find that some of us are so far up the evolutionary /culinary ladder that we have BOTH gravy and custard in our meals. You should try it sometime. Beats jellied eels anyday.
Originally posted by Ken Brough This thread seems as good as any to raise the genius of The Macc Lads.Who can forget their timeles paean to the ladyfolk of a small spa town in Derbyshire, "Buxton Scabby Women" (sung, of course, to the tune of "Nutbush City Limits").On the Norf/Sarf divide, I can't actually think of any really cool band ever to have emerged from London, and if anyone says The Clash they can whistle
Siouxsie and The Banshees (RIP) . They fucking ruled. Class Act!
Originally posted by Seb Briggs It rains a lot as well.P.S. Good to meet you at Brixton Hookster...I managed to get right in front of Barney on the fence at the front. I was absoloutley dripping with sweat by the end of it...Highlight for me was Transmission/Temptation.great show
Oh god, not that old chestnut again. That's a myth. It rains more in the south actually. You want proof?? Every time a little bit of rain hits the south east - the whole place floods over in minutes. (What's the story in the news as of today???!! Which part is under water yet again?? Ha ha ha..) Manchester has never had a flood in all the 30-odd years I've lived 'ere. What dos that tell ya?
Originally posted by Seb Briggs Let me just mention a few midlands towns....DudleyWolverhamptonChesterfieldStaffordCOVENTRYLeicesterNewarkWorksopTamworthMilton Keynes
Funny you should mention Coventry: here's a curious - and true - revelation for you all to savour about that place. Apparently it's such a consistently derided shithole that even the Highways Division of the Department of Transport have been doing everything they could in their powers to dissuade people from even driving thru it.
So, how did they carry that out? , I hear you ask in puzzlement.
The answer is: Over the past twenty years they've deliberately downgraded all but THREE of the 12 "A"-class roads that radiate from it to "secondary" road status so as to virtually bypass the city's standing as a primary route destination. Honestly - it's true. Take a look at any road atlas for the years 1979, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996 and 2000, and marvel at how during that time, it's status as an important route centre has been diminished!!!!! No wonder The Specials were so fucking pissed off.
Originally posted by martin fradley Since when was Milton Fucking Keynes in the Midlands???? I guess its all the same north of Watford, right???M.
Sorry to be adamant, Mr. Fradley, but , geographically, it is, even if "technically" "administratively" or "politically" or even, DAMMIT, "sartorially", it doesn't seem like it. Northamptonshire is only just above it. So it should be regarded as a "South Midlands" town. So suck on that, baby.
Sorry if I've just appeared to have hogged the last seven or eight (even I've lost count) replies to this thread.
That's becuz I've been at work all day and only just been let out coupla hours ago, so I'm belatedly replying/taking issue with/dealing more stunning revelations from my perch to those posters who stirred abit of the good ole
GRAY matter up there.... that's all. Hope you found some of it revealing......next!
Originally posted by Martin Gray > Originally posted by Seb Briggs> Let me just mention a few midlands towns....> > Dudley> Wolverhampton> Chesterfield> Stafford> COVENTRY> Leicester> Newark> Worksop> Tamworth> Milton Keynes
Funny you should mention Coventry: here's a curious - and true - revelation for you all to savour about that place. Apparently it's such a consistently derided shithole that even the Highways Division of the Department of Transport have been doing everything they could in their powers to dissuade people from even driving thru it.
So, how did they carry that out? , I hear you ask in puzzlement.
The answer is: Over the past twenty years they've deliberately downgraded all but THREE of the 12 "A"-class roads that radiate from it to "secondary" road status so as to virtually bypass the city's standing as a primary route destination. Honestly - it's true. Take a look at any road atlas for the years 1979, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996 and 2000, and marvel at how during that time, it's status as an important route centre has been diminished!!!!! No wonder The Specials were so fucking pissed off.
I was born in Cov and have to admit it probably has the worst city centre in Britain but only run a close second by Liverpool. But some great bands came out of Cov in the early 80's.
Has anyone ever been to Malton (Sp?) in Yorkshire? Now that is a one horse town...
Liverpool????!! That's a bit spurious. There's some pretty damn fine architecture there all told. It's cleaned itself up a lot over the years, all we need to do now is to clean the streets of the dickhead contingent that you probably get in every city up and down the land. (Hello, Manchester,, are you listening??)
Mind you, for a city centre even more depressing than Coventry, try Salford. Only one snag. It doesn't technically have one (a city centre, that is), more like several horrid 1960's shopping centres to show the world for.
And that is the truth. I don't even dislike Salfordians. It's that shopping centre in Pendleton I can't stand.
It needs a bomb dropping on it.
Coventry is dire. i lived about 5 miles away from it when I lived in Warwick and went there no more than once a year.
Rotherham is The worst place I've ever been though. Really depressing. Slough's not much better mind
Oh god, not that old chestnut again. That's a myth. It rains more in the south actually. You want proof?? Every time a little bit of rain hits the south east - the whole place floods over in minutes. (What's the story in the news as of today???!! Which part is under water yet again?? Ha ha ha..) Manchester has never had a flood in all the 30-odd years I've lived 'ere. What dos that tell ya?
err - that you have better drainage?
