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Major did this on Monday...today is Monday...so now I am back on schedule until the Major returns...good enough for all??? I hope so!!!

well...looking over the list, I suddenly realized that there is yet another tune that we have yet to cover, and I can't frigging believe that we haven't done this one yet...so for the last one you will see until next Monday (and I swear that I won't spring any surprises again...this is it)....

this week (or sort of week)...we are going to look at....

TEMPTATION

go for it kids....

  1. Best Bit
  2. Worst Bit
  3. Why you love and/or hate it
  4. Percentile rating
  5. What's your favorite drink?
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fine then...nobody wants to go first...

or am I not looking at the list correctly (again???) and this one has already been done???

  1. best bit....that keyboard part...and I ain't even gonna try to hum it...and the whole bit about blue eyes, green eyes and grey eyes...
  2. worst bit-yeah right!!
  3. I love it because it's the best thing they do live...so there!!!
  4. I have to give this one a whopping 100%
  5. Favorite drink has to be the lovely Stella Artois that I finally got my hands on in London...makes everything available over here taste like, well, piss!
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Ij think the whole song is terrible. It's lijke a joke song to me. Ij can only listen to it after Ij have been heavily drinking.... it sort of numbs my appreciation of the bad points about the song. Pardon me.

The B-side is even worse. Just what were they thinking?

Percentage? You want a percentage? It has to be 90% minus. !!!

Sløvdijk nürlojvka dé !!

:nonono:

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  1. This IS my song. This why I love NO. This my favorite NO song! I agree, the best part is the "blue eyes, green eyes and grey eyes" bit and hooky's bass as usual.

  2. There is nothing that I don't like about the song

  3. It's probably one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard, the electronics, guitar and bass sound blends together so perfectly.

  4. 100% for all versions of this song

  5. Just give me a good brew and I'm happy

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  1. this song is one of the best things they ever did. Cant sit still when listening to it. I like the lyrics. Actually I like all versions from this song. It is a perfect combination of guitar en dance music. And a year later they made PCL. Wow those were the days :)!
  2. worst bit may be the noisy guitar part in the beginning and in the and of the song.
  3. see 1
  4. 200%
  5. at the moment vodka-tonic.
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Originally posted by Hånrijk B. & The Hubble Ensémble Ij think the whole song is terrible. It's lijke a joke song to me. Ij can only listen to it after Ij have been heavily drinking.... it sort of numbs my appreciation of the bad points about the song. Pardon me.The B-side is even worse. Just what were they thinking?Percentage? You want a percentage?It has to be 90% minus. !!!Sløvdijk nürlojvka dé !!:nonono:

You must be joking rijght? Or are you talking about Rock the shack? In that case Ij have to agree (burp):beer:

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Originally posted by Hånrijk B. & The Bubble Ensémble Ij think the whole song is terrible. It's lijke a joke song to me. Ij can only listen to it after Ij have been heavily drinking.... it sort of numbs my appreciation of the bad points about the song. Pardon me.The B-side is even worse. Just what were they thinking?Percentage? You want a percentage?It has to be 90% minus. !!!Sløvdijk nürlojvka dé !!:nonono:

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......this guy is making me ANGRY!!!!!

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Have we not done this one before? Oh well.

  1. Every single bit of it is simply superb. The sequencers, those bass-lines, even Barney's geetar. And the lyrics are wonderful the whole way through. Every line's a winner. So many memories from the past 20 years wrapped up with this one too - remember its release and suddenly having a whole different take on this quiet kid at school cos I walked past his house and heard Temptation banging out from his bedroom, dead loud.
  2. Er, can't think of a bad bit off the top of me head.
  3. Adore it. Ceremony's my personal favourite but happily recognise that this is probably THE song for the majority of New Order fans.
  4. 98.5%
  5. Stella. Though was drinking said tipple with double-vodka tops in Dukes on Saturday and I can heartily recommend them too. Four of those and you're starting to hang. Luvverly.
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  1. Nothing stands out as it only has bits that are all equally good. 2.___________________________________
  2. Probably the impact it has live. It's probably the one that eeks the most sweat out of me.
  3. 100%
  4. Fresh orange juice, vodka and champagne.
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i think we did this one didn't we???

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  1. Best bit is the lyric, "Thoughts (or bolts, or whatever it is) from above hit the people down below, people in this world we have no place to go". That sends chills down my spine.

  2. Worst bit? I don't think there is one. I slightly prefer the Substance version over the original though (sorry!).

  3. I love this song from start to finish. New Order's breakthru "guitar song" as opposed to their breakthru "dance song" with Blue Monday. Just a masterpiece.

  4. 95%

  5. Favorite drink? Alcohol, or otherwise? ;)

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Originally posted by Jim Giliberto i think we did this one didn't we???

Jim...I thought we had...but I couldn't find it on the list...is this the one that Shuggy did when he took over for Major that week?

I don't know, but, I can't find it!!!

but a song this good could never be reviewed too many times!!!

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Temptation has been done, can't remember if it was the one I started, but I don't think it was mate;)

100% say no more

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I love this song. It is really unique for them. Perhaps their first song that completely sheds the Joy Division legacy--they finally become their own band.

fave drink crown royal on the rocks

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  1. Best Bit

The whole song, I must say the music is just wonderful, and for that one, Bernard's voice is perfect for that one.

  1. Worst Bit

I don't like the original version as much as the 1987 version...

  1. Why you love and/or hate it

Don't know, sometimes you just like things for the way they are...

  1. Percentile rating

95%

  1. What's your favorite drink?

water. Seriously, Long Island Iced Tea

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Nonsense poetry or sheer brilliance I'll go for the latter

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1-4: see other thread 5. white russians

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Originally posted by Hanrijk Baldúrsson Ij think the whole song is terrible. It's lijke a joke song to me. Ij can only listen to it after Ij have been heavily drinking.... it sort of numbs my appreciation of the bad points about the song. Pardon me.The B-side is even worse. Just what were they thinking?Percentage? You want a percentage?It has to be 90% minus. !!!Sløvdijk nürlojvka dé !!:nonono:

:jawdrop: WHAT THE HELL? Is this guy completely insane? This song's a classic! Here are my thoughts:

  1. Best bit: All of it
  2. Worst bit: The fact that it has to end
  3. Why I love it: When I was first getting into NO, this was one of the songs that really grabbed my attention; I'd never heard anything like it before. Even now, I still remember that feeling every time I listen to it.
  4. Percentage rating: 100%
  5. Favourite drink: Alcoholic - Archers Aqua (especially the peach and raspberry flavours); non-alcoholic - Coke
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  1. Best Bit

The solo on the 12" featuring the sequencer, drum machine and Hooky's base meandering all over the place.

  1. Worst Bit

None - all sheer genius

  1. Why you love and/or hate it

Love it for Bernard's rather deadpan vocals (cue all early Order) which unfortunately only ever featured again on the next release, Blue Monday. (I liked his 'old' voice). The rather agricultural sequencers combined with powerful drums and the sound effects at the end.

  1. Percentile rating

100%

  1. What's your favorite drink?

Orkney dark Island Beer, single malt whisky and Rum & Coke (Not combined)

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  1. The opening sequencer line, and all the variations and changes to it over the years. Oh, and the lyrics - Heaven, a gateway of hope. I could go on.

  2. Absoutely nothing. Perfection.

  3. I once saw it described in Smash Hits as a song you should give to the most cherished person in your life at least once a year. Says it all. And the memories - it was the theme music to my 1980's.

  4. 109%

  5. Fullers London Pride.

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  1. The bouncy sequencer, Stephen's drum work, Barney's crunching guitar intro and lyrics.
  2. Only the pre 1985 versions (live) appeal to me for some reason, and the 12" and 7" are passed over for the Substance version and the '98 version...still can't decide which is the best :skeptic:
  3. First non "Blue Monday/BLT/True Faith/Regret/Crystal" songs I've heard, and it blew my fuckin' mind watching it on 3 16.
  4. 80%
  5. Something with caffeine instead of alcohol....hyperactive is the new buzzed :thumb:
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I'll discuss the '82 version only. All the others are inferior for my part. Especially the '87 one. I really hate this one. That said :

  1. The last "And i've never met anyone..." part. I really love how Barney sings that.
  2. The instrumental part in the midfle might be a little too long...
  3. Perfect New Order. That's all.
  4. 99%
  5. Whisky :D
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  1. Best Bit: Everything. Femaly voice in backgroud is nice. The bass as usual.
  2. Worst Bit: Ehhh... nothing :scratch:
  3. Why you love and/or hate it: A New Order anthem.
  4. Percentile rating: 95%
  5. What's your favorite drink? Orange juice :evil4:
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Originally posted by Badger! Major did this on Monday...today is Monday...so now I am back on schedule until the Major returns...good enough for all??? I hope so!!!well...looking over the list, I suddenly realized that there is yet another tune that we have yet to cover, and I can't frigging believe that we haven't done this one yet...so for the last one you will see until next Monday (and I swear that I won't spring any surprises again...this is it)....this week (or sort of week)...we are going to look at....TEMPTATION

go for it kids....

  1. Best Bit
  2. Worst Bit
  3. Why you love and/or hate it
  4. Percentile rating
  5. What's your favorite drink?

Quitelike the vocal ? Hac 90+ When I drank, Absolut limon. Now a St Clemens

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I love the original version, the version on "Substance" is a pale imatation of the original. My favourite version is from "Taras Shevchenko", otherwise known as "3 16".

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Best bit - the huge, rambling guitar intro on the 12 inch (1981/1982) version & the fact that I can play the keyboard bits Worst bit ? rate: 92% - perty damn good!:thumb: Drink Brandy & red lemonade - Im 36, at my age you cant drink much guinness anymore

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TEMPTATION

  1. Best Bit The "nonsense" lyrics, I'm sure in years to come music students will put some sort of meaning to them and debate furiously what he was trying to say. The early live version is classic, souynds liek he was off his tits making them up as he went along.

  2. Worst Bit Everything else they've done has to live up to its reputation.

  3. Why you love and/or hate it Umm, its a brilliant track. It has the wow factor making you want more.

  4. Percentile rating 100%

  5. What's your favorite drink? Too many nice ales to mention. Too much single malt as well.

While we are here... I'll tell all these Stella lovers a story. I visit Belgium a lot and its sold in 1 litre plastic bottles to be drunk mostly by Alcoholics. I've only ever seen tourists drink it in the pub. When told how its marketed in the UK a belgium national will piss themselves laughing and mutter "but its the worst beer in belgium" :thumbdown:

Enjoy.

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  1. Best Bit

  2. Worst Bit

  3. Why you love and/or hate it

  4. Percentile rating

  5. What's your favorite drink?

  6. Umm, all of it.

  7. You're not serious, are you?

  8. All the things it reminds me of...

  9. 100

  10. Bacardi and Tizer. Ha, right!

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Hmmm, as long as this topic is back at the forefront, I have a Temptation question. This has been bugging me for about a month now. Right around Thanksgiving, I was at the Gap here in L.A.. I was just about to leave the store when I heard the music for Temptation come on. I could immediately tell it was a cover, but when the vocals kicked in, they were completely new lyrics. Basically it was a girl on vocals with guy coming in every now and then to rap during the barney riff. I asked one of the employees if they knew who sang it but of course she didn't know.

Fast forward to yesterday and I hear it again at another Gap. It must be on a Gap Holiday Mix cd of theirs or something, I don't know. The song really isn't that great, I'm just really curious about what group is doing it.

Anyone have any idea??

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I love the song. Or I used to love it... I'm a bit bored of it. I don't know why - maybe because they perform it at EVERY gig. And as a matter of fact it became so perfect and polished - a real masterpiece of course - but that's what eventually got me tired of that.:shrug:

My favourite version is the 1993 Montereiuxx one. I was never really fond of the Substance version (too loud and messy) and I heard the original 12" & 7" vesrions only a few years ago. Man, they sound so gloomy! But they have a charm. ;)

But I've always appreciated the original b-side (as it was on Substance), "Hurt". What the hell were they doing in the studio?? Sounds fantastic and extraordinary.:clap:

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  1. Best Bit
  2. Worst Bit
  3. Why you love and/or hate it
  4. Percentile rating
  5. What's your favorite drink?
  1. "Bolts from above hit the people down below..." and Bernard's guitar on the live versions

  2. The "dup-dahdatdat" synth line can get a little dragging on a 7 minute track

  3. It's a perfect length and style of song for walking home from across campus at dusk, or for heading out to town with the chums to paint the town red after a long day.

  4. 93%

  5. White Russian, Big Lebowski-style / a tall dark Paulaner

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The 1982 12" is absolute perfection. Can't be topped. I must have played it thousands of time. Then there are the live bootleg versions.

The 1987 version is "too commercial".

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  1. Oh it's the last F**KING time (live).
  2. Bad bits? - Go away.
  3. All of the beauty of NO is distilled into this one song.
  4. 1000% (NOthing beats this IMHO).
  5. Whisky (until my stomach cries).
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best bit? yes its the best bit ever! worst? that some people from another thread spot it as overrated:banghead: :angry: love it? ofcourse its New Order's history %? 100%+ Murphy's stout:spit:

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I see this thread start a few years ago but people keep adding to it. Ah, the power of Temptation.

  1. Best Bit "Up down turnaround" and the ever popular green blue grey eyes bit.
  2. Worst Bit When it ends.
  3. Why you love and/or hate it My fav. NO track, perfect to dance to and fun to sing. What's not to like?
  4. Percentile rating 100%
  5. What's your favorite drink? Amaretto sour. So what!
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Ah temptation, the 1981-82 period is some of my favorite New Order music.

1.All of it, especially the guitar. 2.When its edited, 5 minutes is too short. 3.Bernards Vocals and Guitar work! 4.100% 5.Raspberry Italian Soda.

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  1. Best Bit Its chorus. It just makes want to jump and dance!
  2. Worst Bit Mmmmm, can't think of one...
  3. Why you love and/or hate it I just do! It's a great song, the guitar is fabulous, the lyrics are good, the result is excellent! The fact that Kelly McDonald sang Temptation in Trainspotting (one of my favourite films) made me love it even more
  4. Percentile rating 92%
  5. What's your favorite drink? Gin, soda and fresh lemon
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ef wrote:

  1. What's your favorite drink? Gin, soda and fresh lemon

Or Guinness when in Dublin:D

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CuanaD wrote:

ef wrote:

  1. What's your favorite drink? Gin, soda and fresh lemon

Or Guinness when in Dublin:D

Exactly!!! Why did you have to remind me of Dublin and fresh Guinness pints? I was just getting used to the idea of leaving Ireland and coming back to Greece...:banghead: :cry:

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ef wrote:

CuanaD wrote:

ef wrote:

  1. What's your favorite drink? Gin, soda and fresh lemon

Or Guinness when in Dublin:D

Exactly!!! Why did you have to remind me of Dublin and fresh Guinness pints? I was just getting used to the idea of leaving Ireland and coming back to Greece...:banghead: :cry:

Sorry, HeHeHe, when I come to Greece I'll have to drink gin, soda & lemon then:thumb: Or we could meet somewhere inbetween & pick a new drink :beer:

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As with all New Order songs - the best bit is jumping up and down to the chorus - a classic.

Tower Ballroom 83 - " and i have never seen such cunt's quite like you before"

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1.its all good baby!! 2. i must say i don't like temptation 98, i think thats abit weak for some reason 3.it's just pure poptastic perfection 4.97% 5.john smiths smooth.

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Love the bass line

On the original the looping gets a bit redundant

It's a party song that can only get you jumpin'

One of my all time favs

RedBreast or Powers or Jameson and 7-UP or Boddington's on tap

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  1. Best Bit: the green/blue/gray eyes bit

  2. Worst Bit: None! I love it all.

  3. Why you love and/or hate it: this is the song that is New Order for me. it's perfect.

  4. Percentile rating: 100%

  5. What's your favorite drink?: Coke

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Temptation is by far my favorite NO song - Have at least 20 takes of that one, and they're all great!

  1. "Tonight I think I walk alone, Find my soul...
  2. Only the end of it pisses me off, until I push the replay buton. Then I am thrilled again!
  3. 'cause it's kiddish and so brilliant at the same time - Makes me feel so good!
  4. 110% minimum
  5. Give me something strong, and stop bugging me with questions, I wanna listen to Temptation once more!

:music:

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1.Best Bit- Guitar riff's 2.Worst Bit -There is'nt one 3.Like it - All fit's together perfectly 4.Percentage- 98 5.Favorite Drink- Carling Cold

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best bit-"the "eyes" have it

worst part-any live version where Barney whoops (sorry just nooooo)almost as bad as his "granpa dancing"

Hey it is one of their best period

Booze? when I did drink? Rolling Rock...ahh cheap beer. at 33 I just can't drink and party all night any more :cry:

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At one point I thought this was there best song. However, New Order has servel good songs, It's hard to rate this song to me. I guess it's in the mood I'm in. If you ask me next week, I'll say it's the best ever. They have so many good songs it's hard to say. But I do place it in my top 5 No songs list.

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cool song,what can i say?:)

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What is there to say about Temptation. It is New Order's finest work of art period. I like the version on the Singles album the best. I like Temptation when it sounds like it just came out. Love, love, love that song!

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  1. Oh, you've got green eyes Oh, you've got blue eyes Oh, you've got grey eyes
  2. Nothing, really.
  3. A upbeat, uplifting song, both in terms of music and lyrics.
  4. 93%
  5. Alabama Slammer. In moderation, of course.
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  1. "Popping" Keyboard riff, The lyrics,
  2. The 8 minute 12" version, the order/layout of it just isn't right
  3. Love it cause it's so simple, yet mind-blowing
  4. 95%
  5. Water
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  1. Best Bit
  2. Worst Bit
  3. Why you love and/or hate it
  4. Percentile rating
  5. What's your favorite drink?

  1. the guitar, chorus, lyrics, actually the whole song
  2. can't really think of any, although i see the 87 version much better than the 82
  3. it's a very happy song
  4. A
  5. pepsi or cherry coke (yes, I'm a colaholic)

Indeed*!*

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  1. The 7" Mix Intro
  2. The drum riff
  3. F...ckin' great live versions! And the 7" Mix is one of my favorites NO singles.
  4. 98%
  5. Red Label
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ohhhhhhhhhh no!!!! :sleep:

'tis all good

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  1. Where do I start? The lead-in to the green/blue/grey eyes part, and the way it seems to pick up momentum towards the end.
  2. Always will be slightly bittersweet for me as I associate it with one particular guy who had those green/blue/grey eyes.
  3. I love the dodgy lyrics, the whole atmosphere of the song, the beat, the "oooh's"...and it's the absolute perfect tempo to walk to.
  4. 99%
  5. Dalwhinnie. Or if I'm at work, Coke.
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10/10

:thumb:

best song ever

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