Islam and repairing Britain

Mansour Ali wrote: In Britain it is common for a growing minority of teenagers to have several children, often with different and unknown fathers. On the other side of coin you have bachelors/spinsters/shagabonds in their 30's and 40's. The latter being unmarried and free are more vulnerable to the risks of alcoholism, driving offences, risk taking, promiscuity, VD and inevitably also prone to sexual deviance such as rape and possibly also paedophilia.

Alernatively towards the orient, people will be coerced to marry people with similar characteristics in their late twenties after education and vocations have been consolidated. I am not saying we impose this on the people of GB but it is important to be aware of why western civilisation is starting to fall apart a little and how some of the above problems are interlinked. Whether Islam is the vehicle for fixing the problem, who knows.

If girls aren't meant to have babies until they are like 25 of something, why did oh so fucking clever cunt allah design them differently? Paedo is he?

Mansour Ali wrote: On the other side of coin you have bachelors/spinsters/shagabonds in their 30's and 40's. The latter being unmarried and free are more vulnerable to the risks of alcoholism, driving offences, risk taking, promiscuity, VD and inevitably also prone to sexual deviance such as rape and possibly also paedophilia.

I'm off to hand myself in at the station. You will all write to me won't you?

If girls aren't meant to have babies until they are like 25 of something, why did oh so fucking clever cunt allah design them differently? Paedo is he?

Actually the pelvic floor muscles arent fully developed until 23 or so and optimum fertility is in the mid 20's ish. Islam isnt completely seperate from the Darwinian selection process. But actually the age of female marriage can be as low as 14 as long as they have completed as much education as they need.

If you're proposing that people get married at an early age, are you married?

So? what? It was the subcontractors that screwed up? God specified 23, but they forgot to hold the menstrual cycle until then? They never got his stonemail?

Nick King wrote: If you're proposing that people get married at an early age, are you married?

Don't be soft Nick, nobody married advocates marriage.

Doctor? wrote:

Nick King wrote: If you're proposing that people get married at an early age, are you married?

Don't be soft Nick, nobody married advocates marriage.

True! :p

Nick King wrote: If you're proposing that people get married at an early age, are you married?

I am not. I am still only 24 though. arabia/india/malay/indo male marital age normally is betweem 25 and 25. Hookers are available in conservative countries but its very discreet.

Mansour Ali wrote:

Nick King wrote: If you're proposing that people get married at an early age, are you married?

I am not. I am still only 24 though. arabia/india/malay/indo male marital age normally is betweem 25 and 25. Hookers are available in conservative countries but its very discreet.

So, you've got a year to find a wife - better get on with it then...!

Mansour Ali wrote: . The latter being unmarried and free are more vulnerable to the risks of alcoholism, driving offences, risk taking, promiscuity, VD and inevitably also prone to sexual deviance such as rape and possibly also paedophilia.

Anne Widdecombe Charlotte Bronte Mother Teresa

Who knew???? :\ohwell:

I am an RE Teacher.

That is all.

Knuckles wrote:

That's probably true, but science has usually served society, so when religion was dominant in society it served that. In the early modern period, it began to serve government on a utilitarian basis. It's more independent than it used to be.

But how many lab coats do you see in Riyadh?

Actually its not any more independent now than in the past. The only studies are those that government or markets find is worthwhile in funding... and many of these are only looking for one answer. Without funding there is no new science...

On your last note, it is interesting that the Middle Eastern countries are the initial countries to save Greek and Roman science, without them all would have been lost to the barbaric horde... then the Catholic church took science under its wing (having to retranslate back to latin from Arabic) and soon after Islam came around and science was destroyed in the area. It really is amazing that we know anything about Aristotle (which is, of course, the foundation of all science).

Mansour Ali wrote: In Britain it is common for a growing minority of teenagers to have several children, often with different and unknown fathers. On the other side of coin you have bachelors/spinsters/shagabonds in their 30's and 40's. The latter being unmarried and free are more vulnerable to the risks of alcoholism, driving offences, risk taking, promiscuity, VD and inevitably also prone to sexual deviance such as rape and possibly also paedophilia.

You really do write a load of bollocks don't you. There is no evidence to support your claims. Just because you're single, why does that make you more likely to commit driving offences? rape, alcoholism and paedophilia???? I'm single, not promiscuous, use precautions to avoid unwanted pregnancy and disease. I drink modestly, am a very careful driver and certainly have no inclination to rape anyone. As for paedophilia, that's about the most stupid thing I've ever seen anyone post. How does that sit with you?

As for why do western women wear skimpy clothes? it's because they can and aren't dictated to by misogynistic male muslims. The evidence would suggest that because male muslims can't control their urges, they make women cover up completely, lest they be raped because of their lack of control. So all male muslims are potentially walking rapists.

Ha ha wanker, fuck off.

Kevin Smith wrote:

Mansour Ali wrote: In Britain it is common for a growing minority of teenagers to have several children, often with different and unknown fathers. On the other side of coin you have bachelors/spinsters/shagabonds in their 30's and 40's. The latter being unmarried and free are more vulnerable to the risks of alcoholism, driving offences, risk taking, promiscuity, VD and inevitably also prone to sexual deviance such as rape and possibly also paedophilia.

You really do write a load of bollocks don't you. There is no evidence to support your claims. Just because you're single, why does that make you more likely to commit driving offences? rape, alcoholism and paedophilia???? I'm single, not promiscuous, use precautions to avoid unwanted pregnancy and disease. I drink modestly, am a very careful driver and certainly have no inclination to rape anyone. As for paedophilia, that's about the most stupid thing I've ever seen anyone post. How does that sit with you?

As for why do western women wear skimpy clothes? it's because they can and aren't dictated to by misogynistic male muslims. The evidence would suggest that because male muslims can't control their urges, they make women cover up completely, lest they be raped because of their lack of control. So all male muslims are potentially walking rapists.

Ha ha wanker, fuck off.

(a) Single people are naturally more inpulsive. For example, car insurance claims are higher from the single demographic. Other vices are equally easier to fall in to amongst singles. As for teenagers, well segregated schooling is the only way forward.

(b) with regard to your second point, people must be able to cope with the negative aspects of western culture also. If you examine it closely there is no real need for the under 20's to be dressed scantily late at night, its all about attracting attention. Its like people here and in US want to have their cake and eat it; they want the ability to be wild and reckless and then when it goes wrong to change and become sanctimonious. Its like they pick and choose their morality, some sets of undesirables are more preferrable than others in their book.

Islam really is in tune with biological reality. On youtube there are some good - and also amusing lectures by the doctor and teacher Dr Zakir Naik.

Smoking is haraam depending on your interpretation but compared with alcohol its much more innocous to society. Alcohol can kill in hours, smoking cant. People dont fight or rape after smoking etc.. In addition, smoking kills people off before they are seriously old and debilitated but doesnt put them in A+E when they are 20 and economically and socially useful.

Obviously difficult to come up with a coherent argument when you are reading the book and posting as you go.

Seems he's got to the bit about Haram so we'll be having a change to a geometric design for avatar when he gets to the next section.

Mansour Ali wrote:

Nick King wrote: If you're proposing that people get married at an early age, are you married?

I am not. I am still only 24 though. arabia/india/malay/indo male marital age normally is betweem 25 and 25. Hookers are available in conservative countries but its very discreet.

so your endorsing prostitution now???

Mansour Ali wrote:

(a) Single people are naturally more inpulsive. For example, car insurance claims are higher from the single demographic. Other vices are equally easier to fall in to amongst singles. As for teenagers, well segregated schooling is the only way forward.

Bollocks. There are no statistics to support your claim re car insurance. Or your second claim.

Segregated schooling - cos people of your demograph can't see a woman without wanting to rape her? There is nothing to support why segregated schooling would prevent teenagers meeting in a non-school sitation.

(b) with regard to your second point, people must be able to cope with the negative aspects of western culture also. If you examine it closely there is no real need for the under 20's to be dressed scantily late at night, its all about attracting attention. Its like people here and in US want to have their cake and eat it; they want the ability to be wild and reckless and then when it goes wrong to change and become sanctimonious. Its like they pick and choose their morality, some sets of undesirables are more preferrable than others in their book.

Islam really is in tune with biological reality. On youtube there are some good - and also amusing lectures by the doctor and teacher Dr Zakir Naik

If you don't like western culture, don't bang on about it. Go back to your cave and leave us to it. There doesn't have to be a need. We believe in democracy, the ability to express oneself in whatever way we desire.

Take your Islamic shit and shove it up your arse.

Ally wrote:

Mansour Ali wrote: On the other side of coin you have bachelors/spinsters/shagabonds in their 30's and 40's. The latter being unmarried and free are more vulnerable to the risks of alcoholism, driving offences, risk taking, promiscuity, VD and inevitably also prone to sexual deviance such as rape and possibly also paedophilia.

Single people are naturally more inpulsive. For example, car insurance claims are higher from the single demographic. Other vices are equally easier to fall in to amongst singles.

So, you're equating a few singletons crashing their cars to eventual STDs, rape and paedophilia? Utterly absurd and you'll have to do better than a car insurance survey to convince people singletons have a dangerous and detrimental effect on society. How is your arranged marriage coming along by the way?

I'm curious, how do you rate fanatical Muslims who blow up tube trains? The teachings and guidance of Islam really worked out a treat with those people.

Your arguments are riddled with flaws and you're putting forward assumptions you can't possibly back up with credible evidence. So far you say:

• Northerners are boorish, insecure and ultimately useless.
• Women who do not dress in a table cloth are slags.
• Kids are scum and should be divided up into pens.
• Everyone hates the home counties.
• The home counties is the best place to live.
• People who honour war dead are melancholic hard men or Tory women.
• People who disagree with me are Tories.

Anything else we're missing?

What a knob.

The 7/7 bombers were of Pakistani backgrounds. Aside from Afro Caribbeans, Pakistani asians have the lowest educational attainment in Britain. This follows through to their economic underachievements also. They also happen to be Muslim, just as there are idiots in the bible belt of America who pursue extreme Christianity. I get the impression with MSK, Tanveer etc that in essence they arent fundamentally bad as people just they are extremely niave and have a misguided sense of purpose.

But they do at least have purpose. A lot of the trashier parts of white Britain dont seem to have any purpose at all. Merely they consume and shag and pass that on to their offspring.

Mansour Ali wrote: Smoking is haraam depending on your interpretation but compared with alcohol its much more innocous to society. Alcohol can kill in hours, smoking cant. People dont fight or rape after smoking etc.. In addition, smoking kills people off before they are seriously old and debilitated but doesnt put them in A+E when they are 20 and economically and socially useful.

You have no understanding of alcohol. You don't have a pint and then die a couple of hours later. Just cos you've had a pint, you don't decide to rape someone or fight. They are individual characteristics of certain people and not related to alcohol at all.

Of course, if you advocate smoking, then you are clearly a twat.

Kevin Smith wrote: You have no understanding of alcohol. You don't have a pint and then die a couple of hours later. Just cos you've had a pint, you don't decide to rape someone or fight. They are individual characteristics of certain people and not related to alcohol at all.

Of course, if you advocate smoking, then you are clearly a twat.

But even with chain smoking you wont pass out or become unpredictable. The worst drinks are the shots I believe, which cause severe damage to many organs even in small quantities because the brain and the liver especially werent ever desinged to cope and process this sort of substance. But with all alcohol we know its an affliction which a lot of people cant cope with. So why the hell do people complain about drink driving, yet dont seem to care that almost anybody can buy it from Morrisons just like that. Alcohol is dangerous in certain members of the working class who lack certain intellectual functions which can be used during impairment. Many oxbridge students can conduct coherent political debate even after a considerable amount has been consumed.

chris morris? is that you?

Mansour Ali wrote:

But even with chain smoking you wont pass out or become unpredictable.

maybe not but other people will die from lung cancer from your irresponsable behavior.

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: oh...does anyone else feel dumber for reading some of this tripe???

Old Lead Foot wrote:

Mansour Ali wrote:

But even with chain smoking you wont pass out or become unpredictable.

maybe not but other people will die from lung cancer from your irresponsable behavior.

Ridiculous. Think about traffic and other environmental pollution not to mention the cancer risk from other consumer products such as cellphones. Everything has a finite life span, no form of death is pretty. People are living too long and are dwarfing the number of people of working age.

so the proven link between passive smoking and lung cancer is nonsence then?

Old Lead Foot wrote: so the proven link between passive smoking and lung cancer is nonsence then?

I am not saying its not true I just think that if you are gonna have a vice, make it that one. It really isnt as antisocial as people make out. There is nothing wrong with being overweight either, quite absurd.