so now your indifferent to people having vices then?, smoking and prostitution, anything else ok with your fantastic all wise religeous claptrap?![]()
Islam and repairing Britain
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Mansour Ali wrote: The 7/7 bombers were of Pakistani backgrounds. Aside from Afro Caribbeans, Pakistani asians have the lowest educational attainment in Britain. This follows through to their economic underachievements also. They also happen to be Muslim, just as there are idiots in the bible belt of America who pursue extreme Christianity. I get the impression with MSK, Tanveer etc that in essence they arent fundamentally bad as people just they are extremely niave and have a misguided sense of purpose.
The core basis of their justification for the attacks was under the guise of being Muslims and not Pakistanis. Don't try and pass it off as "oh, they happened to be Muslim" because the aftermath investigation deduced fanatical dedication to faith spurred them into loading backpacks with fertiliser and purchasing a one way ticket. The Muslim community has always had a problem with extremists and they need to take more of a responsibility to root them out rather than crying discrimination persistently. You can't tar an entire group of people with the same brush but at the same time those groups can't have their heads in the sand over glaring problems within their ranks.
Mansour Ali wrote: I get the impression with MSK, Tanveer etc that in essence they arent fundamentally bad as people just they are extremely niave and have a misguided sense of purpose.
But they do at least have purpose.
They blew up innocent people and severely injured/disabled countless others in a pointless and harrowing attack against the country's busiest transport hub.
You are in essence saying that "Oh well, they were a bit misguided but at least they had a purpose next to chav scum". As if having that particular purpose of murdering as many innocent people as possible somehow elevates them above jobless people on council estates who may be drifting through life.
Very nice. Keep digging your hole; I would offer you an extra spade but over the past two days you've clearly fired up the JCB.
Mansour Ali wrote: So why the hell do people complain about drink driving, yet dont seem to care that almost anybody can buy it from Morrisons just like that.
What's that got to do with the price of eggs? Just because you buy 4 cans of lager or a bottle of wine from the supermarket, doesn't mean that after you have consumed it, you are then going to drive your car. Yet again, your argument doesn't hold up.
twat wrote: Many oxbridge students can conduct coherent political debate even after a considerable amount has been consumed.
I hate to point out that you are still talking bollocks.
Kevin Smith wrote:
Mansour Ali wrote: So why the hell do people complain about drink driving, yet dont seem to care that almost anybody can buy it from Morrisons just like that.
What's that got to do with the price of eggs? Just because you buy 4 cans of lager or a bottle of wine from the supermarket, doesn't mean that after you have consumed it, you are then going to drive your car. Yet again, your argument doesn't hold up.
twat wrote: Many oxbridge students can conduct coherent political debate even after a considerable amount has been consumed.
I hate to point out that you are still talking bollocks.
But poor or thick people can freely buy this potent stuff just too easily. Basically the issue is do you allow easy and available access to alcohol when there is a risk that thick or vulnerable people can potentially end up killing themselves and other people.
DO us a favour mate. Become a martyr for Allah.....go suicide bomb an empty field in wales.
What a truly world class imbecile you are, even a bit more than most religious people.
Ah, you beat me to it Steve. I had to move away from the desk to find the corkscrew, then realised it was a screw top anyway! Tut.![]()
Mansour Ali wrote:
But poor or thick people can freely buy this potent stuff just too easily. Basically the issue is do you allow easy and available access to alcohol when there is a risk that thick or vulnerable people can potentially end up killing themselves and other people.
those fucking poor and thick people. always mucking things up for the rest of us. we should get rid of them somehow. i dunno, just kind of round them up and make them disappear or something. at the very least stop them breeding. ugh.
you know what, now i come to think to think of it, i did once see a thick person in morrison's. it's an outrage, actually.
bloodynora wrote: you know what, now i come to think to think of it, i did once see a thick person in morrison's. it's an outrage, actually.
Only thick/poor people shop in Morrison's anyway, shirley? ![]()
Apart from the one I shop in, natch.
bloodynora wrote:
Mansour Ali wrote:
But poor or thick people can freely buy this potent stuff just too easily. Basically the issue is do you allow easy and available access to alcohol when there is a risk that thick or vulnerable people can potentially end up killing themselves and other people.
those fucking poor and thick people. always mucking things up for the rest of us. we should get rid of them somehow. i dunno, just kind of round them up and make them disappear or something. at the very least stop them breeding. ugh.
you know what, now i come to think to think of it, i did once see a thick person in morrison's. it's an outrage, actually.
I dunno, anyone thicker than say, a poodle, probably shouldn't be allowed to do most things, children of such people should be removed and placed with intelligent relatives (you have to think of the children's right to not be raised a retard). Of course regular attendance of Mosques/Churches/Synagogues is hardly the action of the intelligent....see the plan here....get the kids away from them, cos no adult, hearing their guff for the very first time, would do anything but nut the average god botherer.
BTW, you're a very evil woman Bx, in one of your facebook pics, I can see part of your neck, so that's a raping for you then!! tut tut.
bloodynora wrote:
Mansour Ali wrote:
But poor or thick people can freely buy this potent stuff just too easily. Basically the issue is do you allow easy and available access to alcohol when there is a risk that thick or vulnerable people can potentially end up killing themselves and other people.
those fucking poor and thick people. always mucking things up for the rest of us. we should get rid of them somehow. i dunno, just kind of round them up and make them disappear or something. at the very least stop them breeding. ugh.
you know what, now i come to think to think of it, i did once see a thick person in morrison's. it's an outrage, actually.
I can't be poor or thick, cos I pay a delivery charge to have the wicked liquid delivered by the caseload! Clever eh?
Kath wrote:
bloodynora wrote:
Mansour Ali wrote:
But poor or thick people can freely buy this potent stuff just too easily. Basically the issue is do you allow easy and available access to alcohol when there is a risk that thick or vulnerable people can potentially end up killing themselves and other people.
those fucking poor and thick people. always mucking things up for the rest of us. we should get rid of them somehow. i dunno, just kind of round them up and make them disappear or something. at the very least stop them breeding. ugh.
you know what, now i come to think to think of it, i did once see a thick person in morrison's. it's an outrage, actually.
I can't be poor or thick, cos I pay a delivery charge to have the wicked liquid delivered by the caseload! Clever eh?
There's skin in your avatar (after all, to this 'tard "scantily clad" means not wearing a tent)......another one for a rapin' then. WHORES THE LOT OF YOU!!!!!!!
So, I'm right in thinking that you're a single (white?) 24 year old muslim with left-wing politics, but don't like the poor/single-mothers/all the other claptrap that Tory MP's/Daily Mail Readers bang on about? You also don't like Northerners, but like a Northern band??
Shouldn't you vote Conservative?
Or should that be Liberal?! :p
I know you're a fan of Chris Morris, but even he could coherently put together a better wind-up than you!
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Flying Teapot wrote: We don't want anyone telling us we can't eat Bacon Sandwiches either OK ?
I concur...but I brought up the bacon thing already...
Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:
Flying Teapot wrote: We don't want anyone telling us we can't eat Bacon Sandwiches either OK ?
I concur...but I brought up the bacon thing already...
You didn't cook it properly then!
Nick King wrote: So, I'm right in thinking that you're a single (white?) 24 year old muslim with left-wing politics, but don't like the poor/single-mothers/all the other claptrap that Tory MP's/Daily Mail Readers bang on about? You also don't like Northerners, but like a Northern band??
Shouldn't you vote Conservative?
Or should that be Liberal?! :p
I know you're a fan of Chris Morris, but even he could coherently put together a better wind-up than you!
Don't let him know you smoke, or you will be next!
Old Lead Foot wrote: perfectly fine being an atheist thanks
, if you want to beleive in a sky fairy as cambo says, fine, if you want everyone to beleive what YOU do, i have a problem with that, whatever brand of religion, i don't go around telling everyone to become atheist, never would, it's none of my buisness,as what i beleive is none of yours
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You should come to my class. I tell the geeks i'm an aethiest and I might as well have poured a bucket of shit over their grandparents.
Most worrying thing he's posted is his awareness of the name Max Moseley....either he's a fellow F1 nut (oh dear!), or a big fan of the British Facist Party.
Uncle Liam wrote:
Old Lead Foot wrote: perfectly fine being an atheist thanks
, if you want to beleive in a sky fairy as cambo says, fine, if you want everyone to beleive what YOU do, i have a problem with that, whatever brand of religion, i don't go around telling everyone to become atheist, never would, it's none of my buisness,as what i beleive is none of yours
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You should come to my class. I tell the geeks i'm an aethiest and I might as well have poured a bucket of shit over their grandparents.
Liam, pretty pretty please, with sugar encrusted roses on it.....video one of you lessons for us.
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You've finally found a definition of Religious Education that isn't doesn't render it an oxymoron.
Nick King wrote: So, I'm right in thinking that you're a single (white?) 24 year old muslim with left-wing politics, but don't like the poor/single-mothers/all the other claptrap that Tory MP's/Daily Mail Readers bang on about? You also don't like Northerners, but like a Northern band??
Shouldn't you vote Conservative?
Or should that be Liberal?! :p
I know you're a fan of Chris Morris, but even he could coherently put together a better wind-up than you!
overall vaguely centrist.
Northerness is best when its not rammed in peoples faces (stuart maconie is one of the worst). Cumbria, NE, Durham is ok. Really the provinces are all fairly similar, Westcountry people, Anglian people and Northerners are always slightly behind SE England in the same way that UK is slightly behind the US and continental Europe.
There is a difference between poor people and people of bovine stupidity. Although inevitably wealth and intellect are usually linked.
Dunno what Chris Morris is doing these days. Some rumour about him being in a west end musical or something?
Doctor? wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote:
Old Lead Foot wrote: perfectly fine being an atheist thanks
, if you want to beleive in a sky fairy as cambo says, fine, if you want everyone to beleive what YOU do, i have a problem with that, whatever brand of religion, i don't go around telling everyone to become atheist, never would, it's none of my buisness,as what i beleive is none of yours
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You should come to my class. I tell the geeks i'm an aethiest and I might as well have poured a bucket of shit over their grandparents.
Liam, pretty pretty please, with sugar encruster roses on it.....video one of you lessons for us.
I dont think I have the equipment, but this is one of he classes in Uni anyway, where we supposedly get "taught to teach" ![]()
The highlights are many. I find the whole thing intellectually demeaning (and I'm not the only one!) so i just sit there and wind the geeks up.
Uncle Liam wrote: I cant be arsed reading the rest of the thread, can someone provide a synopsis for me?
Usual shite.....everything that's wrong with this country (most of which is stuff that's not actually wrong with the country) is entirely down to the lack of wide adoption of his personal view of the flying spaghetti monster.
Actually half the time he sounds like you, but less cuddly.
Uncle Liam wrote: I cant be arsed reading the rest of the thread, can someone provide a synopsis for me?
Ok, in a nutshell.............
Someone says something, but not offering much in the way of explanation, upsets some other people, then someone makes rash unsubstantiated comments about other people who live in different parts of the country, which basically upsets more people ........and that's about it really. Oh, and drink, drugs etc etc are responsible for everything. That do?
EDIT: I am a woman AND I'm from the Midlands, so I may have it wrong.
Mansour Ali wrote:
There is a difference between poor people and people of bovine stupidity. Although inevitably wealth and intellect are usually linked.
LOL Now I KNOW you're insane.
Have you SEEN the British landed gentry at all?
I can tell you from direct personal experience too that a posh postcode is about 5 times as likely to belong to a fucking idiot as one that's in some scummy area. AND idiots of that nature always arue their idiocy, whereas most of the think "scum" take it on the chin and laugh it off.
Stupidity is a universal thing, it's the stupid person's attitude to it that varies. Eg...HM Govt. all rich....have you SEEN any of their IT based policy? ROFLMAO
You are actually more annoying than a nest of cockroaches in the underpants.
Doctor? wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote: I cant be arsed reading the rest of the thread, can someone provide a synopsis for me?
Usual shite.....everything that's wrong with this country (most of which is stuff that's not actually wrong with the country) is entirely down to the lack of wide adoption of his personal view of the flying spaghetti monster.
Actually half the time he sounds like you, but less cuddly.
Thats so 2004.
Let me tell you about Islam. No disrespect to anyone but (apart from Buddhism, sitting under a tree meditating) the whole story is ridiculous. Now, I'm not disputing that some bloke called Muhmmaed lived in Mecca around 650AD and did a bit of preaching and got some followers. But the story goes like this, Mecca was full of people worshipping false gods and icons and paying a shitload of money to do it (sounds a bit like watching New Order, but i digress...) Muhammed doesnt like this, so goes up to some cave in the mountains for a few days to pray, and apparently the Angel Gabriel appears to him and says a few things (basically, there is one god and he is Allah) and tells Mohammed to spread the word. And he tells his wife, and she becomes the first muslim (apparently Muhammed wasnt a Muslim by that logic). And then his follwers grow, they get kicked out of Mecca, then they come back (which is cutting a long story short but what can yuo do). Then there's a BATTLE* which the Muslims win and whoever was originally in mecca at the time is kicked out. Muhammed then dies and ASCENDS TO HEAVEN IN SEVEN STAGES ON A FLYING HORSE. A fucking horse! Which flys! Fuck me.
Christianity is almost as bad. The whole ascension to heaven doesnt wash with me. But I dont dispute that there was some bloke called Jesus who had a number of followers around jerusalem about 2000 years ago.
*Yes, a BATTLE. Its conveniently forgotten that Islam was spread pretty much solely by war. Funny thing is, some left wing scholars subscribe to a belief that Yank foreign policy is due to the expansionist mindset, yet suggest the same to them about Islam and the spread of and the desire of many Muslims to convert the whole world they'll just ignore you. Wierd.