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New Order live @ Henry J Kaiser Arena - Oakland (USA) - 2005.04.29

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They better allow digitals. I have no place to put my camera if they don't allow them since I'm coming straight from the airport. My stomach has been in knots since last night in anticipation of the concert, can't wait...

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The Hannettarium wrote: I'm wondering whether I should risk bringing my digital or just going out and picking up a sack full of disposables tomorrow morning (Hoping I can get some freebies from the photo lab I used to work at).

You should just bring the disposables. The kaiser never lets people bring in Cameras. Of course, if you can sneak it in, then I have ever seen any taken away, but who knows. I personally do not think it is worth the risk. See everybody there. Should get there around 5.

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Hello - I'm new to the list, first post; lurk a lot, and love it; been a fan since 83 -- when I was 10;

any ideas about what time to get to the show tonight? anybody know anything about set times, etc...

i'll be in the SOX hat!

:skeptic: :evil4:

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manny wrote: Hello - I'm new to the list, first post; lurk a lot, and love it; been a fan since 83 -- when I was 10;

any ideas about what time to get to the show tonight? anybody know anything about set times, etc...

i'll be in the SOX hat!

I plan on getting to the venue by 6. That way I can pick my spot. I am not sure as to how crowded it will be but better safe than sorry. i know all of the NO fans will be well behaved, but you can never tell about fans of the Chems ;)

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InTheComputer... wrote: They better allow digitals. I have no place to put my camera if they don't allow them since I'm coming straight from the airport. My stomach has been in knots since last night in anticipation of the concert, can't wait...

I've never seen anybody lose their camera unless they were using it... :shrug:

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So no pre OR after gig meet ?? You Californ-I-A types not too sociable then ?

We'll pitch up in the nearest boozer to the venue we can find, hope to meet a few of you ?

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Johnny Giles wrote: So no pre OR after gig meet ?? You Californ-I-A types not too sociable then ?

We'll pitch up in the nearest boozer to the venue we can find, hope to meet a few of you ?

I'm surprised of this actually! nobody organized anything!

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Concert must be going down right about now? Bastards.

Anyone texting a setlist through?

:\pimp3:

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depthcharge wrote: Concert must be going down right about now? Bastards.

Anyone texting a setlist through?

:\pimp3:

Actually I thought somebody was calling me from the concert, I got a call around midnight and I heard Morning Night and Day.... I was kind of shocked and wonder how somebody got my home phone number...

after a few check ups, it must have been Kamar at the launch party in Chicago due to the area code... he got me there, MND was speeded up a little so it sounded different...

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sitting here with the new album on, waiting for a set list... :sleep:

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Setlist, Setlist, we want a Setlist!

:D

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Al sent it to me but I pressed 'delete' instead of 'save'. Sorry! A couple of surprises, Run Wild for a start...

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Old Blue wrote: Al sent it to me but I pressed 'delete' instead of 'save'. Sorry! A couple of surprises, Run Wild for a start...

ack! :faint:

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Old Blue wrote: Al sent it to me but I pressed 'delete' instead of 'save'. Sorry! A couple of surprises, Run Wild for a start...

search the trash :confused:

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New Order-- a band I've never seen-- playing in the Bay Area, where I'm from. No, I'm not bummed. Not bummed at all.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Ruined in a day wrote:

Old Blue wrote: Al sent it to me but I pressed 'delete' instead of 'save'. Sorry! A couple of surprises, Run Wild for a start...

search the trash :confused:

Sorry mate, it was on my phone. Someone will post the whole thing soon enough. Love Vigilantes and She's Lost Control were in there somewhere.

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She´s lost control Love vigilantes Regret Hey now what you doing Krafty Transmission Touched Run Wild J-E-T Waiting for the sirens call Bizarre love triangle Love will tear us apart Temptation Crystal

ENCORE:

Blue monday

thanks to Barney (German Order)

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Old Blue wrote: Al sent it to me but I pressed 'delete' instead of 'save'. Sorry! A couple of surprises, Run Wild for a start...

The suspense is killing me...ah, I see it. Interesting. had high hopes that TPK might make a welcome return, first gut feel is it's OK but not quite what it could have been. I know, picky, picky...

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My ears are still reeling and i'm halfway dead but i'll try to get up as much as I can about the Oakland gig before collapsing in my own filth of sweat and T-shirts.

Setlist(In this order mostly, feel free to correct any mistakes of which i'm sure I made many):

She's Lost Control (!!!) Love Vigilantes Hey Now What You Doing Regret Run Wild (!!!) Krafty Waiting for the Sirens Call Transmission Love Will Tear Us Apart True Faith BLT Jetstream Temptation Crystal

Encore: Bleu Monday

Highlights that immediately come to mind are:

  • During a storming rendition of LWTUA, some punk with a mohawk gets throttled up to be carried by the crowd and the security make leaps to snatch him. Hooky into his microphone as the second verse begins to segue into the chorus: "DON'T LET 'EM TAKE YOU, BOY"

  • Barney suffering a stroke in the middle of BLT and passing out for the instrumental portion of the song :D

More after I crawl out of the showers.

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Turned on ma phone this morning to about 15 messages from Johnny Giles and Jarvo:lol:

That setlist above looks about the same as the lads sent me, Jarvo couldnae believe they played Run Wild either!

Apparently they were with Churchy (aka The New Pope) and ma favourite American Brother Jeff....who was wearing the CELTIC top :clap: :beer:

Jammy Bastards, cannae wait for Barcelona.

Oh, and according to Jarvo, Atmosphere was down as the second encore but they ran out of time!!!

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A couple of initial impressions...

--The place was fairly packed...I'd say somewhere between 5500 and 6500 people...

--Song selection ranged from fantastic SLC and Love Vigilantes (hidden track b-side remix of course ;) to the ok...Road to Ruin and Run wild...

--I don't get the fact that NO talks about how much the fans like the dancier songs and yet they really didn't play that many outside of the normal range...I personally like the variety but the crowd seemed impatient for the "hits"

--Barney was very talkative...singing the song about San Francisco "flowers in your hair" etc.

--Barney danced all over the place and it didn't look half bad...not as many whistles and whoops as you'd expect

--I was shocked by how many people knew the words to the songs from JD all the way through WFTSC

--I was proud to wear my NOOL shirt and have my 8 year old stepson next to me in his NOOL shirt as well dancing and sweating the whole time!

Good luck everyone on the shows you get to go to...

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Nearly forgot, according to JG Barney said that Jetstream was one of his favourite New Order songs.

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They didn't play Touched, they played True Faith, wondering if that was just a mis-type based on fatigue. No biggie.

I was disappointed in the sound mix, it was really botched, the vocals were a pain in the rear to hear, really distorted and out of whack. The performance was very nice, enthusiastic, even funny (I believe I recall a rip on Morrissey from Barney), terrific, my only complaints would be that #1, the sound mix (or someone else can put it more clearly who was there) was screwy and #2, nothing off my fav album, "Technique" was played. That's two New Order concerts I've been two with all of one "Technique" track being played (Round and Round). Still, it was a great gig for the most part.

Highlights:

Love Will Tear us Apart (best performance of night along with Temptation) Love Vigilantes Road To Ruin Temptation (particularly sterling performance) Crystal (first time ive seen live) Krafty (sounded great)

Disappointments: She's Lost Control (great to hear, but the sound was off) Run Wild (sounded awkward) WFTSC (my fav song of the new album did not sound very nice, mostly due to the poor sound in the Auditorium).

Nothing off Technique, only the old tired standard off PCL, no Perfect Kiss.

Anyway, was a pleasure to see them, especially for the highlights.

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They didn't play Touched, they played True Faith, wondering if that was just a mis-type based on fatigue. No biggie.

I was disappointed in the sound mix, it was really botched, the vocals were a pain in the rear to hear, really distorted and out of whack. The performance was very nice, enthusiastic, even funny (I believe I recall a rip on Morrissey from Barney), terrific, my only complaints would be that #1, the sound mix (or someone else can put it more clearly who was there) was screwy and #2, nothing off my fav album, "Technique" was played. That's two New Order concerts I've been two with all of one "Technique" track being played (Round and Round). Still, it was a great gig for the most part.

Highlights:

Love Will Tear us Apart (best performance of night along with Temptation) Love Vigilantes Road To Ruin Temptation (particularly sterling performance) Crystal (first time ive seen live) Krafty (sounded great)

Disappointments: She's Lost Control (great to hear, but the sound was off) Run Wild (sounded awkward) WFTSC (my fav song of the new album did not sound very nice, mostly due to the poor sound in the Auditorium).

Nothing off Technique, only the old tired standard off PCL, no Perfect Kiss.

Anyway, was a pleasure to see them, especially for the highlights.

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They didn't play Touched, they played True Faith, wondering if that was just a mis-type based on fatigue. No biggie.

I was disappointed in the sound mix, it was really botched, the vocals were a pain in the rear to hear, really distorted and out of whack. The performance was very nice, enthusiastic, even funny (I believe I recall a rip on Morrissey from Barney), terrific, my only complaints would be that #1, the sound mix (or someone else can put it more clearly who was there) was screwy and #2, nothing off my fav album, "Technique" was played. That's two New Order concerts I've been two with all of one "Technique" track being played (Round and Round). Still, it was a great gig for the most part.

Highlights:

Love Will Tear us Apart (best performance of night along with Temptation) Love Vigilantes Road To Ruin Temptation (particularly sterling performance) Crystal (first time ive seen live) Krafty (sounded great)

Disappointments: She's Lost Control (great to hear, but the sound was off) Run Wild (sounded awkward) WFTSC (my fav song of the new album did not sound very nice, mostly due to the poor sound in the Auditorium).

Nothing off Technique, only the old tired standard off PCL, no Perfect Kiss.

Anyway, was a pleasure to see them, especially for the highlights.

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Ruined in a day wrote: She´s lost control Love vigilantes Regret Hey now what you doing Krafty Transmission Touched Run Wild J-E-T Waiting for the sirens call Bizarre love triangle Love will tear us apart Temptation Crystal

ENCORE:

Blue monday

thanks to Barney (German Order)

Here is my song by song quick review...

She's lost control...fantastic, measured and intense...crowd loved it! Barney dedicated this to Ian.

Love Vigilantes...sounded amazing...the hardcore fans were going nuts...Hooky dedicated it to "our boys in Iraq"

Regret...Crowd really starts to get into it...that song sounds as good live as any song they play.

Hey Now What You Doin'....just as the whole crowd was warming up this kind of stopped them in their tracks....maybe it was the Chem Bros fans or something but a straight ahead rock track that very few people knew was not a great pick here. The song sounded fine...not great.

Krafty...again the crowd starts to get into it and one thing that really stood out was Barney's voice...it was nicely warmed up and its by far the best version I've heard of this live...he sounded great.

Transmission..the place was JUMPING..great choice...song executed flawlessly...even the people who like dance music and had never heard it before were into it.

Touched is listed above...but they didn't play TBTHOG...unless I was unconscious for 5 mins...They played True Faith here...it was fine but they played the '94 perfecto type version which did not fit that well from the intensity of Transmission...anyway it was fine.

Run Wild...kind of a disaster. The crowd momentum was building and up...and NO sings their "prom ballad" for crimeny sakes...barney even kind of apologized for this afterward saying that it was the first time they'd played it live so don't give them any shit...Turn or As it is when it was or YSF would have been so much better of a change of pace song...no one seemed to know the song or seemed to care...it was so out of place it was like a sore thumb.

JET...song didn't translate as well live in a cavernous stadium as I would have expected. I think that after Run Wild the intent was to start picking up the pace again but noone seemed to know the song and although it is extremely catchy the crowd never really caught on.

WFTSC...sounded brilliant...but again the crowd wasn't that into it...the lineup of songs certainly needs to be switched around a bit.

BLT...crowd went nuts for this...but it wasn't their best performance of the song by a long shot...maybe I'm being picky but its like going from 0-150mph in two seconds. Anyway...its a crowd fav and everyone was dancing.

LWTUA...They had the crowd in the palm of their hand during and after this one...sounded so good live I almost peed myself...wow.

Temptation...this was the climax of the evening for me and most of the rest of the crowd...I think at one point you could hear the crowd singing it louder than barney...everyone seemed drained after this trio of songs...

Crystal...the hardcore fans loved it...they pounded through this one...those of us that still had energy were jumping up and down...nicely played...I think it would have been much better somewhere else in the set though.

BM...flat and boring. The crowd was kind of trying to get into it but never really did. I know everyone expects this song...but they should really tweak it out or do something new with it...I think that finally even the crowds are bored of it (like the band has been for 10 years)

Only one song as an encore...that sucked...would have been better to close with temptation and come back to do crystal and BM than to end with one...the crowd was kinda ho hum and walked out...not exactly the way to leave 'em wanting more. Where was PK or YSF??

I had a fantastic time and I know I'm being picky but so what

:evil4:

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one more thing...if anyone was wondering about female NO fans...there were lots and lots of 'em there...

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Run Wild??? :eek: live with acoustic guitar ??? :skeptic: :scratch:

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Hmmm there were playing Run Wild??? :love: :love: :love: :love:

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No EGG or Thieves then?.Hmm.Still, SLC sounds like a good opener and great to see Love Vig in there.

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