New Order live @ Henry J Kaiser Arena - Oakland (USA) - 2005.04.29

The fact there was only one encore track was down to the strict curfew imposed by the venue. Atmosphere was also scheduled as an encore, and there might have been other tracks after Blue Monday had there been time.

I guess this setlist will get some work - it's not always easy to gauge how songs are going to go in a live setting, and the order in which they play them doesn't always gel. Must admit to being surprised at Run Wild, was hoping that this one would be consigned to the "album filler" bin.

Are we going to keep these concert reviews to the Ceremony Forum or what? It states it pretty clearly above. Otherwise this forum's going to get flooded in the next few weeks with twenty threads about each show.

... And yes, the rest of us are profoundly jealous!

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Was it still the crappy Oakenfold versions?

Yeah. True Faith and BLT really should disappear from the setlist, except that Americans worldwide would be bitterly disappointed. BLT was really the only one that got the balcony seaters up off of their chairs and shaking their behinds.

Ruined in a day wrote:

She´s lost control Love vigilantes Regret Hey now what you doing Krafty Transmission Touched Run Wild J-E-T Waiting for the sirens call Bizarre love triangle Love will tear us apart Temptation Crystal

ENCORE:

Blue monday

thanks to Barney (German Order)

err, what about that setlist? from The Hannettarium:

She's Lost Control (!!!) Love Vigilantes Hey Now What You Doing Regret Run Wild (!!!) Krafty Waiting for the Sirens Call Transmission Love Will Tear Us Apart True Faith BLT Jetstream Temptation Crystal

Encore: Bleu Monday

looks slightly different. main discrepancy is True Faith... Did they play it? I urgently hope so, otherwise my girl friend won't join me for Barcelona...

ah, and JET is missing in Hannetarium's setlist... what about that one?

The Hannettarium wrote:

• Barney suffering a stroke in the middle of BLT and passing out for the instrumental portion of the song :D

Err.... what's the exact meaning of "stroke" in this case? for the non-native speakers...

Ruined in a day wrote:

The Hannettarium wrote:

• Barney suffering a stroke in the middle of BLT and passing out for the instrumental portion of the song :D

Err.... what's the exact meaning of "stroke" in this case? for the non-native speakers...

More like Bernard doing his "Like A Virgin" routine. Hilarious, until he stopped moving. I thought he had a stroke for a second, and that the gig would have to be stopped to bring in the paramedics. There were quite a few medical personnel...all in tie-dye, I kid you not, like a Grateful Dead version of the "Substance Squad".

"I've fallen but I can't get up...oh, so everybody's watching Hooky, eh? Getting up!"

Ahem.....J-E-T and Jetstream are one and the same!

oldmonkey wrote: Ahem.....J-E-T and Jetstream are one and the same!

ah, well, that clears up a few things :)

Maybe I should read before posting but yet, I'm still so excited about the Order gigging again

The Happy One wrote: Yeah. True Faith and BLT really should disappear from the setlist, except that Americans worldwide would be bitterly disappointed. BLT was really the only one that got the balcony seaters up off of their chairs and shaking their behinds.

True Faith should never disappear from Set List and yes, us Americans would be disappointed with no BLT. I'm disappointed with no Ceremony, Subculture, & Round and Round. They could scrap Blue Monday.

I'm very happy to see New Order on Tuesday, but from looking at that setlist, once again it looks like a short show from them. Maybe when they come again in 15 more years, they'll play a little longer and more of what we want to hear. Oh well, I was sober in 87, 89, & 93 so I just try to remember those those shows, and thank goodness PIL was at 89 show to put on a proper concert.

As previously stated, the setlist length was dictated by the venue's curfew. The gig was still the best part of 80 minutes, and I wouldn't mind betting they have only ever played about ten gigs longer than 80 minutes, with only two or three over 90 minutes in length. Nobody's making you go!

Any bets on Run Wild staying in the setlist? Or could it have been the first and last time they played it.

I go for the last option.

Ruined in a day wrote: Any bets on Run Wild staying in the setlist? Or could it have been the first and last time they played it.

I go for the last option.

Especially if they fucked it up!

Spotnick wrote: Why another thread on this show?

merge them?

oldmonkey wrote: The fact there was only one encore track was down to the strict curfew imposed by the venue. Atmosphere was also scheduled as an encore, and there might have been other tracks after Blue Monday had there been time.

I guess this setlist will get some work - it's not always easy to gauge how songs are going to go in a live setting, and the order in which they play them doesn't always gel. Must admit to being surprised at Run Wild, was hoping that this one would be consigned to the "album filler" bin.

That explains it...thanks for the heads up on the curfew...I was really scratching my head.

I agree that the setlist is an evolving art and that it can and will be worked out...

Marco Pleil wrote: Run Wild??? live with acoustic guitar ???

-Run Wild was a more electric sounding version. full band with bernard and phil slinging their axes.

-there was no collaboration with the chems but they did play Out of Control but no live Barney vocals. also he was hanging out stage right for most of their set.

-NO played a very rock set as opposed to the techno flavor of the opening acts. it was very obvious that they enjoy ripping through their guitar rockers plus they have Phil who's a guitar player so why not use him.

-Bernard constantly referred to Oakland as San Francisco and made a joke about Morrissey being a poof.

-also there was a fight that erupted near Hook's side during "Transmission" I didn't see the whole thing but one guy (I think he sprayed beer on most of us earlier) was being held down by a huge Hispanic guy while 4-5 other guys were throwing punches at his head.

ME TOO! Too much Chemical Brothers not enough New Order...it ended all too suddenly.

Anyone going to post photos of NOOLers making idiots of themselves?

I did notice on 'the other site' that DS said that Barney has twisted an ankle while performing his patented jig during BLT. DS seemed to have been backstage with the band at some point afterwards.

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I agree with Stephen Smith: The sound was horrible. We sat at the balcony level towards the rear, and it was the worst sound I have ever encountered. Barney's voice sounded incredibly muddled and I had no idea what their onstage banter was about. Other than that, I am glad to say I was there. Wished they played "Turn".

And what's up with the Chemical Bros? Cool lasers but their music sounded the same after fifteen minutes and soon after became as grating as a contruction jackhammer and nails on a chalkboard. IT WAS EAR TORTURE!!!

that would also explain the lack of movement on Blue Monday where he was doing his statue impression

Whew, just got back to L.A.! What a show, no longer a NEWorder concert virgin finally. I was front row center and had such an amazing time. One of the highlights for me had to be when Barney flung the pick he was using at the audience during "Temptation" and I managed to catch it. Allllmost got the second one he threw later in the set.

Had such a good time, I even sung through the lyrics of "Jetstream"

It was hilarious(or embaressing) when Barney did the motion of typing on a keyboard when he sang the "writing songs on your computer" line from "Hey Now". He did more dumb literal hand motions for a couple other songs, I forget which.

I got caught trying to sneak in my camera but I weaselled my way out of it. Didn't take any pictures though because the event staff would've been all over me.

Can't wait til tomorrow's show...

Oh yeah, I heard them sound check True Faith twice, Run Wild, Krafty, and another song I didn't recognize. One of the new ones perhaps?

no acoustic guitars but barney did use a melodica during love vigilantes. i didn't actually hear it though, it happened so fast.

dave soligo wrote:

Marco Pleil wrote: Run Wild??? live with acoustic guitar ???

-Bernard constantly referred to Oakland as San Francisco and made a joke about Morrissey being a poof.

He said that he hoped it wasn't as hot in Coachella or he would have to go offstage like Morrissey. It was Hooky who said "poof!" and I think he was calling Bernard, rather than Morrissey.

In defence of Run Wild, it doesn't sound as bad as I had expected it would when played live - middle eight is quite effective. Live backing vocals, or taped? Same for harmonica - it's not a melodica by the sound of it so could be sampled harmonica.

Fookin' hell, Tim - how'd you get a recording so quickly???!!! And are we of the opinion that the much-mooted oldies (EGG, The Village, Leave Me Alone) will turn up later, or did we all get excited over nowt??