New Order live @ Henry J Kaiser Arena - Oakland (USA) - 2005.04.29

Wasimple wrote: I'm fairly sure it wasn't as high as 14 or as low as 4 and for some sections of the song (although my memory is hazy) I thought I saw him play on both the G and D strings though I can't figure out how. Incidently I find the bassline of Krafty's instrumental interlude similar to parts of WFTSC, although as I haven't listened to the album since hearing both songs last night through the poor sound system the two songs have been meshed together in my mind!

The songs are essentially the same in construction - I've found myself playing along to one and accidentally playing the other. I'm guessing it's all G string up and down 6/7/9/14/13 on WFTSC, with some D drone at times.

Wasimple wrote: Thanks for the poof link. I thought it was Barney calling Morrissey a poof.

Me too.

oldmonkey wrote: For all those who still can't quite believe it happened......

Run Wild

I for one am delighted about this. I hope Run Wild becomes a regular on the setlist, which I know puts me in a minority.

Many thanks OM - hearing this has really made my day.

oldmonkey wrote:

Doctor Clayhead wrote: Fookin' hell, Tim - how'd you get a recording so quickly???!!! And are we of the opinion that the much-mooted oldies (EGG, The Village, Leave Me Alone) will turn up later, or did we all get excited over nowt??

There is always a way ;)

The oldies will be around, fear not. I get the impression that they will be changing the set again these days, rather than sticking to a set pattern. Can't see 'em doing the same set at Coachella.

I agree. I really feel that this set was partially an experiment, and one that won't be repeated in whole. I doubt they will play this exact set again. Of course the set list isn't going to be incredibly different, but I do expect the inclusion of some old classics that they haven't played since the 80's. I really have high hopes and a feeling that TPK will return.

Definitive NO to TPK, they haven't been rehearsing it and it hasn't been programmed. Sorry. More's the pity, as it is the genuine NO classic.

OM, thanks for the soundbites and clips, fantastic. I get to go on Tuesday, so will throw my twopenneth in sometime Wednesday when I get back. Hopefully making it home in June, so might make a couple of dates. Saw your website, see you play around Croydon, our kid lives in Selsdon of all places. Thanks again. cotch

Did Barney's vocals sound muddled the entire time? It seemed in some instances, he looked at the teleprompter too late and mumbled some of the lyrics.

I enjoyed the show. Very guitar oriented, which sounded great. The Joy Division songs were a very unsuspected bonus too.

Did anyone else notice the sped-up "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" Kylie Minogue samples toward the end of BM? Thought it was worth mentioning here...

Have they used that sample in previous performances? I found it shockingly out of place!

UmMu wrote: Did anyone else notice the sped-up "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" Kylie Minogue samples toward the end of BM? Thought it was worth mentioning here...

Have they used that sample in previous performances? I found it shockingly out of place!

Not since 2002 they haven't.

oldmonkey wrote:

UmMu wrote: Did anyone else notice the sped-up "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" Kylie Minogue samples toward the end of BM? Thought it was worth mentioning here...

Have they used that sample in previous performances? I found it shockingly out of place!

Not since 2002 they haven't.

NME awards they did.

I wrote up two seperate, long-winded reviews and the site ate both of them!

I'll just say that I managed to sneak my iRiver in (What a piss-poor frisking the security did, that's Oakland for you) but I chickened out of recording as security was looming right over my shoulder for the entire performance!

Did anyone from on here manage to catch one of Hooky's drumsticks at the end? I was screaming "Hooky!" from the balconies and he did look up for a moment but he tossed it to the pit anyways .

According to Mr. Sultan on WIM, Barney actually hurt his ankle during his neurotic dance during BLT, might explain why he laid down for nearly the entire second half!

Did anyone else spot Bernard plugging his ears with his fingers during the Chems show? Having a laugh or too old for the racket? :) I pointed at him to show my mate where he was and Bernard smiled. He seemed to be having a good time. The lads seemed to really enjoy it and I have a feeling they were so angry at having to go off for the curfew that they neglected to say proper gnites and thanks yous etc.

Bloody hell, my ears are stil ringing. Just got back to Burbank after driving from Santa Cruz to LA on two hours sleep. I'll add more when I'm a bit more rested, I will say that Transmission live was brilliant, everyone around me (in front of Hooky, maybe that's why I'm still ringing) was shouting the lyrics to Love Vigilantes, a very good sign, and I saw a number of people singing the words to the songs from WFTSC, a nice sign. Hey Now and the title song from the new one were done quite well, Jetstream wasn't bad, but Run Wild was definitely given a heavy handed treatment; definitely surprised to hear it live, but I needed a breather at the time, my feet are quite sore after the thrashing around me for SLC, Love Vig, and Regret.

The Chems were fine live, but even the relatively quiet intro to Star Guitar was loud ad overdone. Ah well, can't have it all.

Ran into Jeff, Ian , Brian and his missus, Churchy and his g/f, April and her b/f, and then J. Giles and Jarvo inside. Sorry I didn't get a chance to meet others, it was a heckuva drive up from LA. Had never met him before, but I did say hello to Jerry Harrison of Talking Heads after the show, told him it was too bad the Heads weren't still making music. He just smiled and laughed.

Was it you or Jeff in the Hoops shirt near the front, Green? I was right in front of the speakers, front row, the lad in blue jeans, blue shirt (I was only reminded that blue is not Oakland's color as we parked the car) and glasses.

That was Jeff, I had a Mekons shirt on, just to let some people know that some Yanks have a decidedly different taste in second favourite bands, other than Cure, D. Mode, Etc.

Run Wild had Dawn Z in the vocals on the live mp3 so graciously offered to us above.... is she singing live, or was that sampled? interested, cause they must have had it all programmed for this 'tour' if it is 'tape'....

I thought it was a pretty good rendition, not sure why so many folks are down on it... a nice change of pace... and it sounded decent in the mp3... and I am a pretty harsh critic usually... (see my attacks on the kimmel crap)

Hopefully they will play Run Wild in NYC... I think the audiences on the West Coast are totally different from us here on the East... I mean they don't even have pre or post parties going on out there (!)... we would appreciate the non-hits to be played in NYC, don't just want Substance for 2 hours.... rather have 1 hour of NONsubstance...

Can they play Run 1989 live anymore cause of the lawsuit? Just wondering...

(p.s. how do folks know they did not program TPK? Are you going thru their sequencers to check??? I mean, are you around them 24/7 to totally know FOR SURE exactly what songs they have programmed up for 2005? and if so, how do you have the time to post here so often!

just wondering...)

Tarbox23 wrote:

I thought it was a pretty good rendition, not sure why so many folks are down on it... a nice change of pace... and it sounded decent in the mp3... and I am a pretty harsh critic usually...

Really liked the Run Wild mp3 - cheers! I don't know why people are down on it either, well, I do. It is very different to any other NO song but it's one that has really grown on me over the years. Reminds me of 'All I want is You.

thanks for all the coverage and especially the clips - can't get to any of the shows so looking forward to reading how chicago and new york go. i hope someone can also get pics of NO and/or NOOLers.

Tarbox23 wrote: Run Wild had Dawn Z in the vocals on the live mp3 so graciously offered to us above.... is she singing live, or was that sampled? interested, cause they must have had it all programmed for this 'tour' if it is 'tape'....

I thought it was a pretty good rendition, not sure why so many folks are down on it... a nice change of pace... and it sounded decent in the mp3... and I am a pretty harsh critic usually... (see my attacks on the kimmel crap)

Hopefully they will play Run Wild in NYC... I think the audiences on the West Coast are totally different from us here on the East... I mean they don't even have pre or post parties going on out there (!)... we would appreciate the non-hits to be played in NYC, don't just want Substance for 2 hours.... rather have 1 hour of NONsubstance...

Can they play Run 1989 live anymore cause of the lawsuit? Just wondering...

(p.s. how do folks know they did not program TPK? Are you going thru their sequencers to check??? I mean, are you around them 24/7 to totally know FOR SURE exactly what songs they have programmed up for 2005? and if so, how do you have the time to post here so often!

just wondering...)

If Dawn was live then her mic was having problems with volume and she was hiding underneath the stage cause I didn't see her!

In reply to the earlier post about who caught Hooky's stick: We met Anthony from San Antonio outside after the show, he's the one that caught Hooky's stick. He claims it was because of the Kraftwork T-shirt he was wearing. My friends and I, who are in a Seattle NO tribute called Love Vigilantes, also got to briefly meet Hooky and Bernard. They were very cool and let us get pics with them. Bernard mentioned he had seen our site. How cool is that?

"Run Wild" sounded pretty good in that MP3. It's a good song, but probably one that would work better as a first encore.

By the way, is there any chance we'll ever hear the rest of that recording? ;)

whats happen with true faith and digital, ill hope they play again

Does anyone know the song title/artist of the second to last song that was played during the intermission of the Chemical Brothers and New Order set? It was a dance track with female vocals thanks.

you were in the Mekons shirt...were you staying at the Courtyard? I was wearing a black Slint shirt and was talking to you guys in the lobby after the show. That fellow in the green and white Celtic jersey and the other guy were on my flight from Texas.....

[darkgreen]Green[/darkgreen] wrote: That was Jeff, I had a Mekons shirt on, just to let some people know that some Yanks have a decidedly different taste in second favourite bands, other than Cure, D. Mode, Etc.

Run Wild live was a cool clip, thanks for that, especially since I can't score a tix to the NYC show.

Is it just me or does the rest of the world think yanks are a bunch of cowboys? Which explains "Run Wild" and the cowboy mix of Guilt is a Useless Emotion on the US release of WFTSC.

dave soligo wrote: you were in the Mekons shirt...were you staying at the Courtyard? I was wearing a black Slint shirt and was talking to you guys in the lobby after the show. That fellow in the green and white Celtic jersey and the other guy were on my flight from Texas.....

[darkgreen]Green[/darkgreen] wrote: That was Jeff, I had a Mekons shirt on, just to let some people know that some Yanks have a decidedly different taste in second favourite bands, other than Cure, D. Mode, Etc.

That was I, I do remember you certainly, I remembered thinking "how many Slint shirts are there in the world?" Nice to have met you briefly, I was looking for a place to crash, I slept about two hours on the floor of Mr. Celtic's pad, cause I didn't wanna go search out another hotel at that time.

Guy in front of me in the line when I arrived at 5:15 (referring to my Stone Roses Fool's Gold t-shirt): "I have the gold promo vinyl of that."