Amendments to NOOL Gigography

Spotnick wrote: it'll come.

That's fine, i can wait... but i was wasting your time, wasn't i? Who the hell cares about the last four tracks from one gig...? Nobody. By the way the link to new-order.net is working now. :D

BufferLow wrote: I noticed in the dicography that there is no tracklisting for the gig at the Red Parrot, Perth, Australia on 21st February 1987, but i know at least the last four tracks played (that's because you can download them at new-order.net. They are:

Blue Monday In A lonely Place Elegia Sister Ray

Stuffed if i know what the other tracks are, so i guess i'm just wasting your time Sputnick. Oh well...

Apparently the taper failed to press record on the first side of the tape, so we only got the recording from when he flipped the tape! Interestingly, IALP features a lot of sounds from Sputnik. We've no idea on the first 9 tracks played.

Can anyone imagine an encore featuring Elegia? Surprised anyone was left there for Sister Ray!

oldmonkey wrote:

Apparently the taper failed to press record on the first side of the tape, so we only got the recording from when he flipped the tape! Interestingly, IALP features a lot of sounds from Sputnik. We've no idea on the first 9 tracks played.

Can anyone imagine an encore featuring Elegia? Surprised anyone was left there for Sister Ray!

So some poor poor bugger pressed just the PLAY button for the first 9 songs. He must have been spewing (i mean dissapointed) when he got home and played his tape and heard..... nothing, ha! I really love the way Blue Monday segues into In A Lonely Place, classic stuff.

I didn't have time to check yet, but anybody agrees with those changes?

Yes, I concur. In fact, the tracklist page I maintain was missing Denial between ICB and Procession, but it was mentioned in the gigography detail listing for that entry. (this has now been fixed)

And the Devore listing given out by the user (also on db.etree.org) matches up with what I have.

--Sam

BufferLow wrote:

oldmonkey wrote:

Apparently the taper failed to press record on the first side of the tape, so we only got the recording from when he flipped the tape! Interestingly, IALP features a lot of sounds from Sputnik. We've no idea on the first 9 tracks played.

Can anyone imagine an encore featuring Elegia? Surprised anyone was left there for Sister Ray!

So some poor poor bugger pressed just the PLAY button for the first 9 songs. He must have been spewing (i mean dissapointed) when he got home and played his tape and heard..... nothing, ha! I really love the way Blue Monday segues into In A Lonely Place, classic stuff.

I have this on http://www.new-order.net/no/audio/ if any of you want to gander a listen...scroll down for "For 2000" (yeah, I put it up over 5 years ago!)

BufferLow wrote:

Spotnick wrote: it'll come.

That's fine, i can wait... but i was wasting your time, wasn't i? Who the hell cares about the last four tracks from one gig...? Nobody. By the way the link to new-order.net is working now. :D

Spotnick...let me know if you spot any discrepancies, especially with the 2005 gigs, since I basically used the information that landed here for those...

The Happy One wrote:

I have this on http://www.new-order.net/no/audio/ if any of you want to gander a listen...scroll down for "For 2000" (yeah, I put it up over 5 years ago!)

So your the guy that runs new-order.net. I just want to thank you for putting up Thieves Like Us live at the Hacienda (and all the other ultra rare tracks). I love this version of it, a wonderful recording.

BufferLow wrote:

So your the guy that runs new-order.net. I just want to thank you for putting up Thieves Like Us live at the Hacienda (and all the other ultra rare tracks). I love this version of it, a wonderful recording.

You're very welcome. I need to put a few more things on that page.

Spotnick wrote: Well, I'm updating the gigography here with Sam's one, so I should have a mirror of what he has right now when I'm done...

Although I'm still with 1983... it'll come.

When you reach 1984 the Paradiso gig on the 17th May has Blue Monday ommitted. This was played after 586 I believe.

The Happy One wrote:

You're very welcome. I need to put a few more things on that page.

That would be great, i look forward to it.

...one Q about the gig at the Darien Lakes Amusement Park in Buffalo, U.S.A. on Sep. 4 1987: Sam's gig list contents the song 'Run Run Run' with Ian McCullough; doesn't this song count for NOOL ?...

The Saviour wrote: ...one Q about the gig at the Darien Lakes Amusement Park in Buffalo, U.S.A. on Sep. 4 1987: Sam's gig list contents the song 'Run Run Run' with Ian McCullough; doesn't this song count for NOOL ?...

Don't see why it would - it was the Bunnymen's encore, which saw Barney only join them on stage.

oldmonkey wrote:

Don't see why it would - it was the Bunnymen's encore, which saw Barney only join them on stage.

Ah, I've amended my page appropriately, to make it clear this was Bernard making an apparance, and not a part of NO's set.

The Happy One wrote:

Ah, I've amended my page appropriately, to make it clear this was Bernard making an apparance, and not a part of NO's set.

Thank you for that, i have always been confused as to weather it was performed at Darien Lakes or not.

Not sure if this is the right place for this

Going through my collection I have two copies of the Wellington 82 gig, one procured from DAD, the other from the weeding forum. Both were labeled as the gig on the 6 Dec, but the set list bears no resemblence to what is on waterrat's gigography, instead matching the gig 2 days later in Christchurch. Not sure why both copies I have were mislabeled. Was the gig on the 6th taped?

Wasim wrote: Not sure if this is the right place for this

Going through my collection I have two copies of the Wellington 82 gig, one procured from DAD, the other from the weeding forum. Both were labeled as the gig on the 6 Dec, but the set list bears no resemblence to what is on waterrat's gigography, instead matching the gig 2 days later in Christchurch. Not sure why both copies I have were mislabeled. Was the gig on the 6th taped?

There's been quite a bit of confusion regarding these dates, or in fact if the 12/06 date was in Christchurch at all, as I've heard both dates were Wellington...but what Spotnick has on the live browser matches what I have, and to the best of my knowledge should be correct.

Here's the setlist for that date (the 8th is the one you mentioned)...I think there's an audience version of it (not great quality from what I heard) but I haven't heard it yet:

setlist:

ICB, Everything's Gone Green, Chosen Time, Procession, We All Stand, Ultraviolence, Senses, Ceremony, The Village, 586

Cheers Sam

The Happy One wrote:

Here's the setlist for that date (the 8th is the one you mentioned)...I think there's an audience version of it (not great quality from what I heard) but I haven't heard it yet:

setlist:

ICB, Everything's Gone Green, Chosen Time, Procession, We All Stand, Ultraviolence, Senses, Ceremony, The Village, 586

I'll put this recording up over the weekend if I get the chance. It's passable.

No way should that count as New Order playing NDF. It wasn't their set, but was some of them guesting at the Chilis set.

stupid small thing but blackburn st george's is actually king george's

bansheeman wrote: stupid small thing but blackburn st george's is actually king george's

This is the kind of attention to detail I was hoping to see...I think the confusion is that there's a St. George's in Bradford as opposed to the King George's in Blackburn. Fixing my listing now.

the gigography has the august 6, 1985 show at the rainbow music hall in boulder. the rainbow music hall was in denver.

For Auckland/Wellington date info see here.

AgentWood wrote: the gigography has the august 6, 1985 show at the rainbow music hall in boulder. the rainbow music hall was in denver.

Indeed, it appears you are right...dunno how that slipped by the first run-through we had last year...

This would also seem to support you.

think i might have mentioned this before, but:

the july 14, 1993 show at the meadowlands in new jersey is prefaced by question marks. the august 4, 1993 show is written as brendan byrne arena, east rutherford, new jersey. they are the same thing.

the brendan byrne arena was the arena (i don't think it's there anymore) at the meadowlands complex in east rutherford, new jersey, which also includes the stadium where the NY jets play.

so both shows should read: brendan byrne arena, meadowlands, east rutherford, new jersey.

AgentWood wrote: think i might have mentioned this before, but:

the july 14, 1993 show at the meadowlands in new jersey is prefaced by question marks. the august 4, 1993 show is written as brendan byrne arena, east rutherford, new jersey. they are the same thing.

the brendan byrne arena was the arena (i don't think it's there anymore) at the meadowlands complex in east rutherford, new jersey, which also includes the stadium where the NY jets play.

so both shows should read: brendan byrne arena, meadowlands, east rutherford, new jersey.

You're looking at http://www.waterrat.com/nogig.htm

Try http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs instead.

The Happy One wrote:

AgentWood wrote: think i might have mentioned this before, but:

the july 14, 1993 show at the meadowlands in new jersey is prefaced by question marks. the august 4, 1993 show is written as brendan byrne arena, east rutherford, new jersey. they are the same thing.

the brendan byrne arena was the arena (i don't think it's there anymore) at the meadowlands complex in east rutherford, new jersey, which also includes the stadium where the NY jets play.

so both shows should read: brendan byrne arena, meadowlands, east rutherford, new jersey.

You're looking at http://www.waterrat.com/nogig.htm

Try http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs instead.

i was looking at this site's gigography. one of the dates needs to be changed, then.

August date is correct for Brendan Byrne arena, I was at this one. Don't know if the arena is still there, thought it got renamed (continental airlines?)