Preview Waiting For The Sirens' Call (Legally) presented by New Order

Is anyone else having a problem playing the tracks on the bbc website...

For some reason I'm getting a pop up screen saying incorrect URL or something when I try and listen. I do have real player installed so it shouldn't be a problem...

I've tried a couple of other radio shows from the bbc website and am getting the same "error" message so I don't think it simply has to do with insane volume of traffic to hear the songs...

Are these four songs posted legally anywhere else (in much the same way that Krafty ended up on the Warner Japan Site as well as somewhere else)?

Thx.

Kerry Harris wrote: Is anyone else having a problem playing the tracks on the bbc website...

For some reason I'm getting a pop up screen saying incorrect URL or something when I try and listen. I do have real player installed so it shouldn't be a problem...

Thx.

That's the exacty same problem that I've encountered (I've first thought it's because I'm on my office connection).

I don't know about "return to form." I think they did that (to the best of their ability) with Get Ready.

I dled the new album (and WILL buy it, so no different), and after reading all the posts here I feel it's time to chime in:

New Order hasn't lost anything with this record, and it doesn't stink in any way. The music (as dance-pop) is very good, and I can tell that the production value on the cd itself is going to be excellent. The only thing that really irks me are those lyrics...they've really taken a bad turn on this record. Sure, New Order lyrics have had many sour moments in the 80s, but honestly, with the exception of "Turn" (and I'm not sure why, maybe only because I like the track that much) I found the lyrics to be downright silly. Sure, I can jam to them, but come on, if you're going to put that much skill into the music, why not put that much more into the writing?

(this is coming from a writer, so it's not ALL that negative, ok!) :D

Stephen Morris sounds like he'd be a great documentary narrarator or news anchorman. The way he introduces himself and the One World program sounds very broadcaster-like.

Also, someone mentioned that the versions of these songs sounded different on the broadcast... I think I agree. They sound somewhat more "full-bodied" and developed. Anyone else think so?

Mr. Afterthought, surely New Order are bring both salt and vinegar to the table? - sometimes you prefer a little less salt, at other times an entire lashing of vinegarette.

In other words, at what point did the rough not come with the smooth since day 1? It would be a shame to take umbridge now at the verbose.

Check back to PC&L and compare with WFTSC. I think you'll find little has changed, for the better or worse.

Originally posted by Huntsman Mr. Afterthought, surely New Order are bring both salt and vinegar to the table? - sometimes you prefer a little less salt, at other times an entire lashing of vinegarette.

In other words, at what point did the rough not come with the smooth since day 1? It would be a shame to take umbridge now at the verbose.

Check back to PC&L and compare with WFTSC. I think you'll find little has changed, for the better or worse.

(laughing) I love it... let me see... PCL; uncompromising, abstract experimental pop made by taking the most forward pushing sounds of the moment and misinterpreting them in a way that produced beauty which was both of the moment and timeless... sounds pretty good to me... now WFTSC; predictable paint by the numbers britpop with a little electro thrown in to please the demographic... songs are completely unspired; poorly arranged and produced... no connection whatsoever with current musical directions... everything completely predictable and dead on arrival... zero freshness or innovation... zero curiosity... zero beauty...

Mmm yep, sounds like they havent changed at all ;)

Ajw

AJ, Afterthought posted that he was down with the new album because of the suspect lyrical content. I was merely suggesting that in essence, this attribute of the order hasn't altered.

'We've got, three miles to go, There's a, soldier waiting for me.' (1983)

'You've got eyes like an old wounded soldier, They cry tears to the losts in the wind'. (2005)

An arbitrary excerpt from both albums; quite similar, in fact.

Needless to say they cannot be cutting edge twice, but at either point in time, they still stand outside of most other music which is quite remarkable.

I thought you'd only heard 4 track, Mr Wells. Bit harsh to dismiss an album as paint by numbers Britpop, if you haven't even heard the bulk of it.

Well it must be just me but I have been a fan for the past 20 years and i know their "new stuff" is sometimes a bit different from what has been previously released and certain people like it,and certain people don't,we are all different after all. Oh yeah,my point(if indeed I have one)for me they can't put a foot wrong ever,can't think of a crap track,,or an album I didn't like,everything has it's merits.The one thing you can definately say is that it is impossible to pidgeon hole the music or the sound,the 4 tracks previewed,great,Krafty,well one listen and that was it it,happy,upbeat,simple,made me smile anyway(and theres alrready not enough smiling going on!!) Oh yeah and as someone previously said,"every New Order fan will buy the album irrespective of any negative comments at this time. Ok hands up who's not going to buy it.......ahh one at the back...what? oh you were scratching your head. Cheers.

yah i've only heard the four, i agree that working overtime is like something from twisted tenderness, thats exactly what i thought when i heard it. krafty is not single material, maybe it would be for monaco.

I really like I told you so but then again i love sensuous stuff you can dance to. and it should be the next single just because its not too pop. if both krafty and jetsream are singles people will get the wrong impression of the whole album. im not sure where everyone here is from, but i know these songs wont stand a chance in the states.

Thank god for the interjection of the wise and trusted huntsman. Unbelievable thread- in fact it's the first time I've been moved to submit for a while. Firstly- there's a new album folks- without it you wouldn't be able to disperse your comments on the quality of the tracks. Secondly- these 4 tracks are as to be expected? Some of us will love them, others wont. Simple - but as Huntsman said- it's been like that since time immemorial- who loves all the tracks on Movement, P,C and L, Brotherhood, Republic etc? Thirdly- we all complain that the band aren't credited with enough airplay or recognition, and yet when they produce a track like Jetstream - a well-crafted pop-song with someone from Scissor sisters- some of us are up in arms. Why not the next single? It will surely sell - and bring NO to a 2005 audience. It might not be Sunrise but it has a sound that I can predict will be wafting from the high-rises in Salford. Long live the NME Godlike genii- I for one will be in the front row of every concert this year

After listening to "Working Overtime", "I Told You So" & "Jetstream" I was so dissapointed I was about to give up on New Order. To me these songs aren't just bad, they are awful.

But then I heard "Waiting for the Sirens' Call" this afternoon. What a beautiful New Order song, just as smooth as can be. Like hearing from an old friend you haven't spoken to in years. Definitely a New Order classic.

Am I the one being refered to as "Afterthought?" Hmm, ok. Not nice. Anyway, maybe I need to clarify. Let's compare "Brotherhood" era New Order verbage:

The streets are so empty at this time of nightI'd rather walk on my own than fightIn a world where I'd forgotten youI found myself forgotten, tooThat's the danger of believing booksAnd all the lies of those thieves and crooksWe sing intellectual songs of loveFrom a stolen pen to a velvet glove.-As It Was When It Was

This isn't AMAZING poetry, but when compared to:

Ya gotta look at life the way it outta be,Lookin at the stars from underneath the trees,There's a world outside and a world out there,With that tv you just don't care.-Krafty

Still, not AMAZING, but there's a definite loss in style and substance. Granted, Sumner has never been fantastic and he tends to over-rhyme. And I'm not choosing Krafty for any reason above the other tracks...(personally, I feel "Dracula's Castle" is perfect except for the one line and title)...

I'm not KNOCKING New Order. I still love the music. I just feel that the language has faltered a bit. Think of the story told in Bizarre Love Triangle. Think we're gonna get something like that again? Or Temptation?

PA, the 'afterthought' tag was a term of endearment, not a pointed disruption of your personage. Any offence was purely co-incidental. For what it's worth, I have much respect for one and all.

Would you agree to disagree with the opinion that Bernard's idiosyncratic lyrical writing has swayed from not so good to good to sublime in a circular fashion throughout each album release?

Mr. Disco from Technique touched a nerve, the same nerve was tweaked with Regret - I'd forgotten a few senses from Mole Hunt which were thoroughly sensationalised whilst Getting Things Ready. I've bore witness to WFTSC and both my senses and nerves are practically tingling into hyper space.

It may be that some of us simply become too nervous at each cusp of new release, confused and delirious with excitement.

None of us have ever listened to NO for the lyrical content- its the whole package that counts- if we wanted lyrics we'd be listening to Mozzer!

I beg to differ. I HAVE listened to them for lyrical content, and considering the lyrics were ALL i had to bitch about the new album, I think that says a lot. I AM looking at the content as a whole, and when I'm dancing to it, it's not to the words, but the feeling they carry.

Originally posted by Huntsman Would you agree to disagree with the opinion that Bernard's idiosyncratic lyrical writing has swayed from not so good to good to sublime in a circular fashion throughout each album release?

I'll agree to that. Spoken in less of a "black and white" manner. I like it.

It may be that some of us simply become too nervous at each cusp of new release, confused and delirious with excitement.

Perhaps, perhaps...

The new album of New Order «Waiting for the sirens' call» will be a special one because all fans will find a special song they like a lot : from pop to rock songs. For myself «Hey Joe» is my favorite song of this new album. My best New Order song of all time is Nineteen 63 for sure and «Joe» remind me Johnny! I think, New Order did a great job for all their fans around the globe but for the next album, I would like to be surprise like when I hearded for the 1st time in my life Blue Monday, Confusion, Temptation, Bizarre Love Triangle, True faith, round & round and Crystal.

I just find the latest songs to be bland and having no catchy hook... they just seeem to go no-where, personally they lost it after Republic and they were on the verge then. From the preview of a New Album point of view, the very the first time I heard World I could not get the chorus out of my head for ages, Having listened to the 4 songs played from WFTSC, I can't recall what they sound like period as I'm typing this message some few hours after, nothing grabbed me. i'm gonna have to listen again I think...

someone probably said this before but, perhaps the music started going downhill when the titles were actually said in the song =)

Listened to the four songs. Loved all but Jetstream.

Jesse-

Funny! I like how you think!

I like all was v.nervous on hearing Krafty and the other New order songs for the first time.Krafty is a pop song which should do well in the charts (at least everyone then will be able to listen to NO and not just us real fans..Only right to share isn't it) "I told you so"..........erm reggae rock fusion when I heard the start of that song I must admit I though f....hell what the blazers are they doing to me..No disrespect but reggae bloody music is not my scene..but wait a min:this song get better second by second..ignore the start (bob Marley..eat your heart out) it suddenly turns in to a bloody marvelous track..Thank god for that!Looking forward to hearing the other songs like waiting for the siren - how can I hear that and the rest of the tracks before the release date.

Thanks all ..from a v.releaved Essex (New order) boy!

Eddie Findlay wrote: I like all was v.nervous on hearing Krafty and the other New order songs for the first time.Krafty is a pop song which should do well in the charts (at least everyone then will be able to listen to NO and not just us real fans..Only right to share isn't it) "I told you so"..........erm reggae rock fusion when I heard the start of that song I must admit I though f....hell what the blazers are they doing to me..No disrespect but reggae bloody music is not my scene..but wait a min:this song get better second by second..ignore the start (bob Marley..eat your heart out) it suddenly turns in to a bloody marvelous track..Thank god for that!Looking forward to hearing the other songs like waiting for the siren - how can I hear that and the rest of the tracks before the release date.

Thanks all ..from a v.releaved Essex (New order) boy!

You should have Mail - ONE ITEM ONLY -

i named my tekken 5 character Jetstream Lover

Anyone have this converted as an mp3 or any other file format?

... can you bare to listen to the lyrics?

Spotnick wrote: Since the preview will disappear tomorrow, I have put it online here, so you can listen to it by clicking on:

One World - New Order interview

Enjoy! So those unable to listen to the BBC site, you have no excuse!

*I hadn't the time to listen to the show on the original site, came back today and as I expected it wasn't there anymore, so my biggest thanks for storing it here! It's a great show, but of course they've made a huge mistake by making people hear Working Overtime as the first song... many listeners won't have cared about the rest of the show after that... they should have started straight with the title track, which is the best for the English audience, while if it was an American radio Turn would have been more appropriate... I'm a bit worried they're making too many mistakes... wrong album cover, wrong video for the single (wonderful but can't be shown on conservative TV channels), wrong samples on the radio... it would be a shame this excellent album doesn't get the success it deserves... Anyway broadcasting tracks like I Told You So is alright as people can hear there are different kinds of music on this album... I don't know if it's because it's Real Audio, but I've also the slight impression that the mix is a bit different from the promo here and there, especially on Jetstream (which is, by the way, a great single!)... Oh yes Steve's voice is great on the radio! He definitely should have his own late night show...