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What did you think?
Gotta say I'm a bit pissed off with this new professional New Order - fuckin hate it when they mime - surely this performance won't boost the sales - so what was the problem with them not playing live? Are they under instructions now?
Come on guys - sort it out! They all looked a bit uncomfortable to me - loved Barney's dancing though - some things NEVER change
On the other hand it's still great to see em on TOTP
His miming was poor but then again its never been particually terrific has it!
To me tho it looked like the were having a ball! Barney was especially animated and dancing like a madman! Hooky looked like he was giving it all as always. Good to see em live though!
Anyone notice Barneys going a bit grey round the sides?????
Bit of a non event really wasn't it?
Barney (though trying to show off his maneouvres) looked as if he'd been tied down, could just tell he wanted to leap around more!
Hooky's face however whilst doing his 'drumming' was priceless!
Good to see 'em they were looking good but might as well just have stood there while the BBC muppets played the CD.
Don't mind the grey hair myself, never really gone for blonde blokes anyway...
Originally posted by ShugZV What did you think?Gotta say I'm a bit pissed off with this new professional New Order - fuckin hate it when they mime - surely this performance won't boost the sales - so what was the problem with them not playing live? Are they under instructions now?Come on guys - sort it out! They all looked a bit uncomfortable to me - loved Barney's dancing though - some things NEVER change
Super, now does anybody have a recording so that those of us on the other side of the ocean can see? And sorry, Shug, but the problem with NO playing live is that Barney can't sing!!! Still gotta love 'em nonetheless.
And Shug now that you've received a promotion (congrats by the way) does that mean we're gonna see a new and improved more mature and responsible you? ;) No more drunken misspellings and all?
Utter Utter NON EVENT!! 
Not only did they mime but the song was EDITED DOWN (second verse and chorus missing - didn't any of you notice that??) thus further confirming my suspicions about there being an anti-New Order conspiracy (as if to say: let's grudgingly welcome them on the programme and pretend they really aren't on stage, let's limit the amount of air time they have by cutting the song a minute short, etc etc...). Notice how muted their reception was, compared to, say, Doves?? Oasis sounded shite too - Liam sounded like he was losing his voice there! THREE MANCHESTER BANDS ON THE SAME PROGRAMME !!! - How come no big fuss was made of this, surely the first time this has ever happened???
Bollocks.... I hate TOTP, watching it just insults my intelligence. (and did you see those wankers Pay As U Go prancing about in that boxing ring? Fook me.....hilarious or what??? 
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The Beeb are better off ignoring the Order in future - that "performance" can't have done wonders for next Sunday's Chart position (down the top 50 with an anvil round its neck probably - more so than if they WEREN'T featured - the way tradition has it)
i've got to say, i thought it was embarrassing. the first time i've really cringed at something they've done. i can't stand miming but if your gonna mime then do it properly or just show the vid. plus the fucking edit was bollox, must've only lasted for 2 mins max.
pile of shite. they should have stayed at home.
Originally posted by And You Will Know Me By the Trail of Empty G&Ts > Originally posted by ShugZV> What did you think?> > Gotta say I'm a bit pissed off with this new professional New Order - fuckin hate it when they mime - surely this performance won't boost the sales - so what was the problem with them not playing live? Are they under instructions now?> Come on guys - sort it out! They all looked a bit uncomfortable to me - loved Barney's dancing though - some things NEVER change
Super, now does anybody have a recording so that those of us on the other side of the ocean can see? And sorry, Shug, but the problem with NO playing live is that Barney can't sing!!! Still gotta love 'em nonetheless.
And Shug now that you've received a promotion (congrats by the way) does that mean we're gonna see a new and improved more mature and responsible you? ;) No more drunken misspellings and all?
if you've got BBC America, they're showing it here tomorrow. check out their website for more details on the schedule. it's on at 6pm CST, i believe.
and if you don't, and still need a copy, i'll be taping it. give me an e-mail and we'll get it sorted out. :D
...even if it is as bad as some of you say. 
i look forward to seeing the dancing tomorrow though, dammit! :D
Originally posted by And You Will Know Me By the Trail of Empty G&Ts > Originally posted by ShugZV> What did you think?> > Gotta say I'm a bit pissed off with this new professional New Order - fuckin hate it when they mime - surely this performance won't boost the sales - so what was the problem with them not playing live? Are they under instructions now?> Come on guys - sort it out! They all looked a bit uncomfortable to me - loved Barney's dancing though - some things NEVER change
Super, now does anybody have a recording so that those of us on the other side of the ocean can see? And sorry, Shug, but the problem with NO playing live is that Barney can't sing!!! Still gotta love 'em nonetheless.
And Shug now that you've received a promotion (congrats by the way) does that mean we're gonna see a new and improved more mature and responsible you? ;) No more drunken misspellings and all?
Cheers mate - I promised to be a bit more responsible AT work - but have no fear me ole mookerado - The Shugster ye's all know will definitely NOT be changing
Even though I cringe when reading some of the stuff I have happened to mention - I still find it amusing
Can you picture moi drinking fookin water or orange juice in a nightclub? neither can I?
Big up to Janaki - she'll do you a copy if ye need it - it'll save me sending it over;)
SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT!!!!!!!!! Bloody Grandads! What do the fucking audience know??
New Order weren't made for Top Of The Pops.
Trouble is, I don't know if that's to be meant as a compliment or an insult these days....
:o :o
Yea but regardless they've done more totp performances than i can care to remember down the years!!!!! They have definatly got summin goin on with the beeb..
Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! SHIT!!!!!!!!! Bloody Grandads! What do the fucking audience know??New Order weren't made for Top Of The Pops.Trouble is, I don't know if that's to be meant as a compliment or an insult these days....
it seems most people prolly weren't made for TotP...at least, so far as i can gather from bits i've watched since it's been on here.
'cept, perhaps, for the likes of Kyle E. 
i still stand by my earlier assertion that my favourite moment involving her was the video for Nick Cave's "Where the Wild Roses Grow."
(not that i'm, uh, saying anything. certainly not. 
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Janaki, Re: Where The Wild Roses Grow.... Doesn't Nick kill her in the song, as it were??
Wish that was in real life.....
I don't think it was *that* bad! Bloody great just to see them on TOTP's. I dunno, people moan about the lack of exposure then when they do get it - they moan about the miming - who cares??! Best TOTP's in years I think - Pulp, The Doves (fantastic track) and New Order back with a stomper of an electronic song and another tart from Neighbours. Switched off when Oasis came on though - Bliss ;)
Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!! Janaki, Re: Where The Wild Roses Grow.... Doesn't Nick kill her in the song, as it were??Wish that was in real life.....
right you are. hence, why it is my favourite moment involving her!
that entire album is really brilliant as well. and the tag line from all the adverts that i saw that went with it. "Murder Ballads: Ten Songs That All End the Same Way."
re: TotP...will have an opinion after tomorrow, but dunno when i'll get to post it. don't get to the computer much during weekends... 
Is it just me or did Steve Morris look he was suffering from constipation? Gotta give it to New Order though...in their mid-40's,still have that honest quality,plus a cracking tune.
It's only "Top Of The Pops",they were'nt taking it seriously..neither should you lot.
Originally posted by rob windle I don't think it was *that* bad! Bloody great just to see them on TOTP's. I dunno, people moan about the lack of exposure then when they do get it - they moan about the miming - who cares??!Best TOTP's in years I think - Pulp, The Doves (fantastic track) and New Order back with a stomper of an electronic song and another tart from Neighbours. Switched off when Oasis came on though - Bliss ;)
Never said it was a bad performance, love seeing em on totp - just pissed off cos it was mimed (badly) maybe it's all the years of being spoiled with the live performances - but that's what made the bastards special;)
As fer Stephen - I agree with Mr Sweeney
I think its totally deliberate on the part of Stephen though - you can tell he absolutely hates miming - he thinks the whole notion of it is pants, thus he treats it with the disdain it deserves..... Why else does he look so indifferent? - he isn't even playing the right beats if you watched him carefully!! :D
Here are a few of the comments from my packed living room while the order were on TOTP. These are all people who have never heard of new order.
"He looks like a caveman!!"
"Good track though"
"Didn't they do world in motion?"
"when are oasis on?"
"That guy on bass looks fucked, he's gonna have a heart attack"
"I bet the singers son is saying 'oh god! dad! stop dancing like a prick!'"
"Is that john simm?"
"I want to see that film"
"Happy mondays are in that"
"Who are happy mondays?"
"Who are doves?"
Some of these i thought were quite hilarious. Especially the first one.
DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR GIGS THIS SUMMER...BECAUSE IF THEY WOULD HAVE HAD THIS SONG SORTED LIVE...IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PLAYED LIVE TONIGHT....I FEAR LAZYITIS HAS SET IN AND NOTHING IS GONNA CHANGE REGARDING SET LISTINGS FOR THE SUMMER....HOOKY LOOKED SO OLD!!!!
Not necessarily my fellow greyhound homing friend, they mimed Crystal even though they can play that live. Regards set listings, I don't really care cos I've only seen 'em twice so anything's a bonus. Paris will be the telling truth I think. Incidentally (like anyone cares!) 'Barney' had his first run around Hall Green today (I assume after mentioning running everyone will know I DON'T mean Sumner) and did very well. Marty also won mummy a few beer tokens :D
Originally posted by janaki > Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!!> Janaki, Re: Where The Wild Roses Grow.... Doesn't Nick kill her in the song, as it were??> Wish that was in real life.....
right you are. hence, why it is my favourite moment involving her!
that entire album is really brilliant as well. and the tag line from all the adverts that i saw that went with it. "Murder Ballads: Ten Songs That All End the Same Way."
Great quote there, janaki. Just saw Mr. Cave and his cohorts this past week. Pretty damn good, and they ended it all with a beyond belief version of Stagger Lee. Blixa's screaming voice is still going round my head.
Do any of you know if BBC America shows Top of the Pops? I just got A US Direct TV Satalite and I get all the Pay per veiws, Porn and HBO I ever dreamed, and for free!
I just answered my own question.
Yes we do get TOTP on BBC America. And it's on Saturday. So it should be the repeat of New Order.
Check here for the times in your part of the country. In Mountain time it starts at 5:00pm. So set your recorders. I'm sure BBC Canada will have it to, but you need Digital Cable or Satalite to get it
http://tv.yahoo.com/grid?lineup=us\_DITV3&dur=&.intl=us&startdate=1019865600&starthour=16&genres=0
Im not really familiar with Top of the Pops because it isn't shown out here ... But is there a particular reason why most groups mime on the show ? Like why are they unable to perform as they normally do ?
If the band that I play in ever gets the opportunity to play on a show like that (VERY unlikely but I can dream), I shall never stoop so low !!
Originally posted by Green > Originally posted by janaki> > > > Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!!> > Janaki, Re: Where The Wild Roses Grow.... Doesn't Nick kill her in the song, as it were??> > Wish that was in real life.....
right you are. hence, why it is my favourite moment involving her!
that entire album is really brilliant as well. and the tag line from all the adverts that i saw that went with it. "Murder Ballads: Ten Songs That All End the Same Way."
Great quote there, janaki. Just saw Mr. Cave and his cohorts this past week. Pretty damn good, and they ended it all with a beyond belief version of Stagger Lee. Blixa's screaming voice is still going round my head.
Great, Green Giant!
I'm going to see Cave and The Bad Seeds monday night!
S.
Originally posted by Brendan Sun Im not really familiar with Top of the Pops because it isn't shown out here ... But is there a particular reason why most groups mime on the show ? Like why are they unable to perform as they normally do ?If the band that I play in ever gets the opportunity to play on a show like that (VERY unlikely but I can dream), I shall never stoop so low !!
TOTP has been running since the early 60's over here mate - almost all the bands on it mimed - probably due to record company policy - there were only a few who actually played live - can't remember who (I'm a wee bit sozzled;) ) During the early 90's - they changed their policy and all bands had to do it live - fuckin disaster it was - Happy Mondays Stinkin Thinkin being one of the worst - but at the same time - the funniest!!! Things soon went back to normal - but New Order always played live - that's what has annoyed me about the last 2 - credibility slipping?
Did anyone tape that TOTP-"experience" so we can put it to the video archives ??? In Germany we only get Westlife on TOTP...and that's not my kind of entertainment...
