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well...there's always the DJ gigs...

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Maybe Hooky will klss Bernards and Steves ass to come back, but they will sense to say no.

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What's going on? Did I miss something?

When is the next Other Two lp out? anyone know?

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Theres always more books to be written, perhaps we'll get MADCHESTER MONOPOLY. Pieces of Erasmus, Wilson, Morley, Hooky, Curtis, Shaun Ryder, Bez, and for the hell of it John Simm.

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michael preda wrote: Theres always more books to be written, perhaps we'll get MADCHESTER MONOPOLY. Pieces of Erasmus, Wilson, Morley, Hooky, Curtis, Shaun Ryder, Bez, and for the hell of it John Simm.

You forgot Mark E. Smith.

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michael preda wrote: Theres always more books to be written, perhaps we'll get MADCHESTER MONOPOLY. Pieces of Erasmus, Wilson, Morley, Hooky, Curtis, Shaun Ryder, Bez, and for the hell of it John Simm.

Thats a frigging great idea. Do it for charity, make it online orders only and do it in time for Christmas.

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Zachery Starkey wrote:

GlasVegas wrote: Something worth bearing in mind with this whole 'raping of Curtis' corpse' chat is this.....When Hooky left New Order the band originally planned to carry on without him. They auditioned a few folk for the job of Hooky's replacement (a daunting task) one of whom is an established musician and good friend of one of my good friends.

The plan, from what I'm told, was for New Order to tour a set made up exclusively of Joy Division songs around the festival circuit in 2007. It was clearly an attempt at 'cashing in' on the hype surrounding Control. For reasons unknown, possibly to do with Hooky's legal threats, the plans were abandoned. A few people on here already know this story, I told them it at the time, and, like Johnny Giles, I know that the sources of this story (there were two) are solid.

Just worth considering this before making out that the idea of 'cashing in' is one exclusive to Hooky.

While I have no doubt that that Bernard Sumner and Steven Morris (along with Phil) planned to continue as New Order after Hooky quit (which they had a right to, Hooky voluntarily left the group) I'm gonna have to call bullshit on your claim that New Order were planning to do a 2007 tour of only JD songs.

Why, they did exclusively JD set in January 2006. Actually by what I saw it was terrific and the band was enjoying it... so there.

Yes, but that was a one off.

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Zachery Starkey wrote:

Yes, but that was a one off.

No it wasn't. They'd done it a few months before with the John Peel night.

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Hooky's answer @ Yorkshire Evening Post

Yesterday Hook told the YEP he was baffled by Mounfield's outbursts. "I don't know what's brought it on unless someone's kidnapped his phone and is playing a cruel gag," he said. He'd been unable to contact Mounfield but suspected "the problem" was connected to a number of offers he had received to perform the Joy Division album Unknown Pleasures in its entirety. "It's interesting to get this criticism from Mani when he's doing (a live revival of the 1991 Primal Scream album] Screamadelica himself," he said. "I'm very proud of the Freebass album," he added. "Playing Unknown Pleasures I'm very proud of. I've got nothing to complain about." Mounfield's comments had been "an unfortunate bit of timing" with the record, which had taken five years to complete, so close to release but, he reflected: "When you have people like Mani and Rourkey (in a band] you're going to have a volatile mix. "It's like siphoning petrol – sometimes it can blow up in your face."

Source: YEP

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"When you have people like Mani and Rourkey (in a band] you're going to have a volatile mix."

Sure, they are the bad guys. :nod:

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confusion wrote: Hooky's answer @ Yorkshire Evening Post

Yesterday Hook told the YEP he was baffled by Mounfield's outbursts. "I don't know what's brought it on unless someone's kidnapped his phone and is playing a cruel gag," he said. He'd been unable to contact Mounfield but suspected "the problem" was connected to a number of offers he had received to perform the Joy Division album Unknown Pleasures in its entirety. "It's interesting to get this criticism from Mani when he's doing (a live revival of the 1991 Primal Scream album] Screamadelica himself," he said. "I'm very proud of the Freebass album," he added. "Playing Unknown Pleasures I'm very proud of. I've got nothing to complain about." Mounfield's comments had been "an unfortunate bit of timing" with the record, which had taken five years to complete, so close to release but, he reflected: "When you have people like Mani and Rourkey (in a band] you're going to have a volatile mix. "It's like siphoning petrol – sometimes it can blow up in your face."

Source: YEP

Its nice to see that Hooky has the dignity not to stoop to Mani's level. Hooky is well rid of him in my opinion.

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Didn't the forward-looking Mani appear in 24HPP?

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M1 wrote: Didn't the forward-looking Mani appear in 24HPP?

He did. I could never work out if he was supposed to be himself at a Happy Mondays soundcheck or part of the Happy Mondays crew who looked alot like an older version of the bloke out of the Stone Roses.

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Hooky is going to release Annik Honoré's biography soon :rofl:

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Valid reasons for Rourke and Mani to be mad...?

-Why did it take so long for Freebass records to come out? So Hooky could take ownership and connect it to the Hacienda, with Hacienda Records? Are they mad because he released it in this fashion, on his label, after so long a time, with the rather pointless digital release first and to what seems like very little attention?

-Instead of going ahead with Freebass live, Hooky used his time/resources to start up the new Hacienda homage club first. Then put Freebass on the back burner yet again so he could do spoken word and Unknown Pleasures homage shows.

-The band lead singer. Really, in the end, why did Hooky even bother to release the album?

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Jim R wrote:

confusion wrote: Hooky's answer @ Yorkshire Evening Post

Yesterday Hook told the YEP he was baffled by Mounfield's outbursts. "I don't know what's brought it on unless someone's kidnapped his phone and is playing a cruel gag," he said. He'd been unable to contact Mounfield but suspected "the problem" was connected to a number of offers he had received to perform the Joy Division album Unknown Pleasures in its entirety. "It's interesting to get this criticism from Mani when he's doing (a live revival of the 1991 Primal Scream album] Screamadelica himself," he said. "I'm very proud of the Freebass album," he added. "Playing Unknown Pleasures I'm very proud of. I've got nothing to complain about." Mounfield's comments had been "an unfortunate bit of timing" with the record, which had taken five years to complete, so close to release but, he reflected: "When you have people like Mani and Rourkey (in a band] you're going to have a volatile mix. "It's like siphoning petrol – sometimes it can blow up in your face."

Source: YEP

Its nice to see that Hooky has the dignity not to stoop to Mani's level. Hooky is well rid of him in my opinion.

:thumb:

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trying to remain unbiased so i don't trigger a pointless back lash, I'm saddend at the split of the band as I was the split of monaco, electronic and new order, i thought most of the songs from the album were good and live they were great.

I doubt Hooky is at home twiddling his thumbs thinking what shall I do now, but if at some point he is and thinks "I think I'll have a chat with Bernard", then I'd be over the moon.

OR, if he could do something with Arthur Baker, that would be fantastic.

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Jed Stephens wrote: trying to remain unbiased so i don't trigger a pointless back lash, I'm saddend at the split of the band as I was the split of monaco, electronic and new order, i thought most of the songs from the album were good and live they were great.

I doubt Hooky is at home twiddling his thumbs thinking what shall I do now, but if at some point he is and thinks "I think I'll have a chat with Bernard", then I'd be over the moon.

OR, if he could do something with Arthur Baker, that would be fantastic.

even better.

Afika Bambaataa

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Geno wrote:

Jed Stephens wrote: trying to remain unbiased so i don't trigger a pointless back lash, I'm saddend at the split of the band as I was the split of monaco, electronic and new order, i thought most of the songs from the album were good and live they were great.

I doubt Hooky is at home twiddling his thumbs thinking what shall I do now, but if at some point he is and thinks "I think I'll have a chat with Bernard", then I'd be over the moon.

OR, if he could do something with Arthur Baker, that would be fantastic.

even better.

Afika Bambaataa

At this rate you'd probably get a collab with Rihanna. Even worse than Freebass.

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Gene wrote:

michael preda wrote: Theres always more books to be written, perhaps we'll get MADCHESTER MONOPOLY. Pieces of Erasmus, Wilson, Morley, Hooky, Curtis, Shaun Ryder, Bez, and for the hell of it John Simm.

Thats a frigging great idea. Do it for charity, make it online orders only and do it in time for Christmas.

I'll add Mark E Smith as was mentioned earlier, plus sweeten the pot with every gameboard being made from Hac dancefloor wood. On the flip side is a Quija board for halloween. And every set comes with an unsold copy of the Freebass album. That way everybody wins.

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Why not join with Morrissey?!

They'd show 'em ALL!

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Jed Stephens wrote: trying to remain unbiased so i don't trigger a pointless back lash

I feel your pain, mate. I'm trying not to pick my nose so I don't trigger a nuclear holocaust.

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I just laughed out loud at that and someone in another room shouted 'are you okay'?

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OR, if he could do something with Arthur Baker, that would be fantastic.

Judging by his recent Freebass remixes I reckon it would be less than fantastic.

More has-beens who should just retire. Move on people, that was the 80s.

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John Demetry wrote: Why not join with Morrissey?!

They'd show 'em ALL!

He would include only beer-drinking heterosexuals.

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I don't get all this hatred towards Hooky. I mean, the guy is so passionate about all his projects... I hope he manages to form a nice new group, I'd really miss his bass.

As greedy as it may seem, his nostalgia feels sincere to me. It is sad that a NO reunion seems so unlikely...

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Mark E. Smith must be rolling in his grave from laughter reading about what is happening to his fellow mancuanian musicians. :thumb:

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|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: Mark E. Smith must be rolling in his grave

I doubt he's that bothered, and he's still very much alive.:nod:

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Burt Burterson wrote:

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: Mark E. Smith must be rolling in his grave

I doubt he's that bothered, and he's still very much alive.:nod:

Yeah he is alive, I had the misfortune of seeing both Fall gigs at fac251 a couple months ago. awful.

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Burt Burterson wrote:

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: Mark E. Smith must be rolling in his grave

I doubt he's that bothered, and he's still very much alive.:nod:

Alive, that's good!!! But he was very watchful, he even played in 25HPP.

When I was choking with a cheesstick at the Pizza Hut on Oxford Street in London, my last thoughts were, Victoria... you know like the gas station

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