ALERT: friend calls NO 'wanky'

Originally posted by The Happy One > Originally posted by ed verrilla> Here in the USA in the south we have people who still listen to green grass and high tides and freebird. those of you in Engerland would totally flip at what its like there.> Neaderfucks who like both kinds of music: Country AND Western.> > His may not make sense, but what does now that George Bush controls Congress.> > Oh, you were talking about england,,,,,,,I think it doesnt make a diff, you should judge a band on what they sound like> Ever hear of FischerSpooner?

and Ed...did I mention that I think you are a twat, a twit, and a wanker???

Jeff, ed, etc...let's try to get along...i have lived in the north and the south and from my experience, what Ed said does have a lot of truth...you cannot go to a concert or bar without hearing Freebird coming from the jukebox or some assholes mouth...In louisiana I was considered a FAGGOT just for listening to NewOrder. That attitude is still rampant down there and that's why I will not return...the culture in the south is YEARS behind the culture on either coast of the US. I never want to be in the south again and i suggest those of you stuck in "the south shall rise again" mentality get out a bit and check out how the rest of the world operates. Since i've been out of louisiana i have not seen any David Duke (kkk politician in Louisiana) stickers, no rebel flags, no 'South shall rise again' paraphanelia and i do not need a Wal Mart to do my shopping....

Wasn't the topic music from the South vs. North in England anyway? North all the way for me....Manchester in particular but the shoegazers from the midlands also turned a couple switches for me...

Hey there BLT,

Just a couple of things.....

I can only imagine what it must have been like to grow up among the 'coon asses. WE make fun of them. Now, this is not to say that there are not PLENTY of redneck enclaves in Texas, BUT, one may find civility and dare I say progressive enlightenment in the larger municipalities..........."we" elected Ann Richards governor for goodness sake!

Wasn't it Ann Richards who said "If the King's English was good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for me!" ?

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by shaun carruthers> dont worry people from bedford shire are interbred any way.

[Ahem]. I'm Beds born and bred.

say no more eh al!!! now i know why your such a ........!

Originally posted by Monkeys in a Bubble Wasn't it Ann Richards who said "If the King's English was good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for me!" ?

no, it was some man (not sure where from) in the house of representatives during a discussion on whether english should be the official language of the U.S.

Originally posted by AgentWood > Originally posted by Monkeys in a Bubble> Wasn't it Ann Richards who said "If the King's English was good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for me!" ?

no, it was some man (not sure where from) in the house of representatives during a discussion on whether english should be the official language of the U.S.

Actually, Ann's most famous quote was, "Poor George (President George H.W. Bush - 41), he can't help himself. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth." - DNC National Convention 1992.

That quote alone sunk her bid for re-election for governor in the state of Texas. How sweet it must have been for George W. Bush to beat her sorry arse.

I guess Ann Richards was born with a booze soaked foot in HER mouth.

Originally posted by Michael McDermott > Originally posted by AgentWood> > > > Originally posted by Monkeys in a Bubble> > Wasn't it Ann Richards who said "If the King's English was good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for me!" ?>

no, it was some man (not sure where from) in the house of representatives during a discussion on whether english should be the official language of the U.S.

Actually, Ann's most famous quote was, "Poor George (President George H.W. Bush - 41), he can't help himself. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth." - DNC National Convention 1992.

That quote alone sunk her bid for re-election for governor in the state of Texas. How sweet it must have been for George W. Bush to beat her sorry arse.

I guess Ann Richards was born with a booze soaked foot in HER mouth.

erm, wasn't dubya a bit fond of the bottle, as well? (not to mention the white lines.) and at least ann richards doesn't have a police record!

Originally posted by AgentWood > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > Originally posted by AgentWood> > > > > > > Originally posted by Monkeys in a Bubble> > > Wasn't it Ann Richards who said "If the King's English was good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for me!" ?> > >

no, it was some man (not sure where from) in the house of representatives during a discussion on whether english should be the official language of the U.S.

Actually, Ann's most famous quote was, "Poor George (President George H.W. Bush - 41), he can't help himself. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth." - DNC National Convention 1992.

That quote alone sunk her bid for re-election for governor in the state of Texas. How sweet it must have been for George W. Bush to beat her sorry arse.

I guess Ann Richards was born with a booze soaked foot in HER mouth.

erm, wasn't dubya a bit fond of the bottle, as well? (not to mention the white lines.) and at least ann richards doesn't have a police record! Which POLICE record..MASSAGE IN A BROTHEL!:D:D:D

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by AgentWood> > > > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > > > > Originally posted by AgentWood> > > > > > > > > > Originally posted by Monkeys in a Bubble> > > > Wasn't it Ann Richards who said "If the King's English was good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for me!" ?> > > > > >

no, it was some man (not sure where from) in the house of representatives during a discussion on whether english should be the official language of the U.S.

Actually, Ann's most famous quote was, "Poor George (President George H.W. Bush - 41), he can't help himself. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth." - DNC National Convention 1992.

That quote alone sunk her bid for re-election for governor in the state of Texas. How sweet it must have been for George W. Bush to beat her sorry arse.

I guess Ann Richards was born with a booze soaked foot in HER mouth.

erm, wasn't dubya a bit fond of the bottle, as well? (not to mention the white lines.) and at least ann richards doesn't have a police record! Which POLICE record..MASSAGE IN A BROTHEL!:D:D:D

No, I think that's Clinton's record.

Originally posted by AgentWood > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > Originally posted by AgentWood> > > > > > > Originally posted by Monkeys in a Bubble> > > Wasn't it Ann Richards who said "If the King's English was good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for me!" ?> > >

no, it was some man (not sure where from) in the house of representatives during a discussion on whether english should be the official language of the U.S.

Actually, Ann's most famous quote was, "Poor George (President George H.W. Bush - 41), he can't help himself. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth." - DNC National Convention 1992.

That quote alone sunk her bid for re-election for governor in the state of Texas. How sweet it must have been for George W. Bush to beat her sorry arse.

I guess Ann Richards was born with a booze soaked foot in HER mouth.

erm, wasn't dubya a bit fond of the bottle, as well? (not to mention the white lines.) and at least ann richards doesn't have a police record!

White lines????? The only "white lines" that GWB even may have been remotely associated with are the ones by Grandmaster Flash and Mele Mel.

Come on AW, the coke accusation is and always has been a red herring concocted by those who would wish him harm.

And yes, he does have a DWI charge from over twenty years ago. That was a nice "October surprise", wasn't it? Too bad (for you) that it didn't work.

Originally posted by Michael McDermott > Originally posted by AgentWood> > > > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > > > > Originally posted by AgentWood> > > > > > > > > > Originally posted by Monkeys in a Bubble> > > > > >

White lines????? The only "white lines" that GWB even may have been remotely associated with are the ones by Grandmaster Flash and Mele Mel.

you are exactly like the rest of the republicans i know...believe ecery tidbit of info about Bill the Thrill, and deny GWB shortcomings...NewOrder song for you today....LIAR!

BLT,

Where, exactly, have I perpetuated a rumor about BC? Twasn't me my friend.

Frankie Goes To Hollywood song for you today.......Relax!

Michael McDermott wrote "Come on AW, the coke accusation is and always has been a red herring concocted by those who would wish him harm."

nonsense. It is widely known that he did coke in the 70s, that's why he always refuses to address the issue when asked on the record. However, he has no problem saying that he didn't do it more recently than that. If he had never done it, why wouldn't he just go ahead and say so, rather than say no to the last twenty years but refuse to deal with anything prior ? "No" is a lot easier to say than the lame squirming away from the question that he has given the press. If you can say it, that is.

"And yes, he does have a DWI charge from over twenty years ago. That was a nice "October surprise", wasn't it? Too bad (for you) that it didn't work."

He also has a vandalism conviction on his record from a frat prank, and it is widely thought that there was another DUI from Texas, but we'll probably never know the truth about that or any other possible convictions due to the way his minions purged and sealed his criminal record when he was elected governor, an unprecedented and possibly illegal move.

Personally I think he's done a lot worse than that stuff, but it's funny what you're willing to overlook in that walking piece of crap, while the vaguest accusation or insignificant misstatement on the part of a democrat is repeated ad infinitum by the conservative lock-step propaganda machine.

Originally posted by teleharmonium Michael McDermott wrote "Come on AW, the coke accusation is and always has been a red herring concocted by those who would wish him harm."nonsense. It is widely known that he did coke in the 70s, that's why he always refuses to address the issue when asked on the record. However, he has no problem saying that he didn't do it more recently than that. If he had never done it, why wouldn't he just go ahead and say so, rather than say no to the last twenty years but refuse to deal with anything prior ? "No" is a lot easier to say than the lame squirming away from the question that he has given the press. If you can say it, that is."And yes, he does have a DWI charge from over twenty years ago. That was a nice "October surprise", wasn't it? Too bad (for you) that it didn't work."He also has a vandalism conviction on his record from a frat prank, and it is widely thought that there was another DUI from Texas, but we'll probably never know the truth about that or any other possible convictions due to the way his minions purged and sealed his criminal record when he was elected governor, an unprecedented and possibly illegal move.Personally I think he's done a lot worse than that stuff, but it's funny what you're willing to overlook in that walking piece of crap, while the vaguest accusation or insignificant misstatement on the part of a democrat is repeated ad infinitum by the conservative lock-step propaganda machine.

Dear sir, madam, anonymous unic:

The proof, as they say, is in the pudding.

See, it would be VERY easy for me to pop off about how Slick Willy had Vince Foster whacked for putting the wood to Chillary. But I don't. There is no concrete proof to support those assertions.

And you sir, madam, anonymous unic, you don't have any evidence to support YOUR ridiculous claims.

Look bro', sis.....whatever, I can understand your bitterness on being crushed in the polls last election night. It wasn't very fun for me in '92 and '96.

However, the acidic venom you and yours are spewing right about now will do you no good. But hey, keep it up if it makes you feel better about yourself.. You guys have TEN senate seats up for grabs in '04. And who will you trot out as presidential nominee, Al Gore? Gary Hart?!?! I can't wait...... :D

McDermott wrote "See, it would be VERY easy for me to pop off about how Slick Willy had Vince Foster whacked for putting the wood to Chillary. But I don't. There is no concrete proof to support those assertions."

correct, there is no proof, concrete or otherwise, and that 'assertion' is completely ludicrous to boot.

"And you sir, madam, anonymous unic, you don't have any evidence to support YOUR ridiculous claims."

what part are you saying is ridiculous ? His convictions are a matter of public record, as is the additional college era arrest for stealing from a hotel (no conviction on that one though as far as I can tell). His evasive answers on the drug questions from the time of the 2000 campaign are well documented, as are his outright lies about his draft evasion and the drunken driving incident (he had previously stated that he had never been arrested, and after it was reported by the ultra conservative Fox News, he said he had simply paid his fine and that there were no court proceedings, which is another lie, records have since been released documenting his appearance in court).

"Look bro', sis.....whatever, I can understand your bitterness on being crushed in the polls last election night. It wasn't very fun for me in '92 and '96. "

chump, if you're trying to make some sort of gender or sexuality based insult, please get your thoughts together and go ahead and make the insult, we don't have all day. By the way, it is easy to look on the online profile for users on this forum to get their name, if provided; this would rightly lead you to conclude that I am a 'sir'. Oh, and this election in the USA was hardly the democrats being 'crushed', they lost a few seats in Congress is all (while picking up some governorships).

Where are the yellow cards Hank ? (this reminds me of pieman & repka on sunday )

Originally posted by teleharmonium McDermott wrote "See, it would be VERY easy for me to pop off about how Slick Willy had Vince Foster whacked for putting the wood to Chillary. But I don't. There is no concrete proof to support those assertions."correct, there is no proof, concrete or otherwise, and that 'assertion' is completely ludicrous to boot."And you sir, madam, anonymous unic, you don't have any evidence to support YOUR ridiculous claims."what part are you saying is ridiculous ? His convictions are a matter of public record, as is the additional college era arrest for stealing from a hotel (no conviction on that one though as far as I can tell). His evasive answers on the drug questions from the time of the 2000 campaign are well documented, as are his outright lies about his draft evasion and the drunken driving incident (he had previously stated that he had never been arrested, and after it was reported by the ultra conservative Fox News, he said he had simply paid his fine and that there were no court proceedings, which is another lie, records have since been released documenting his appearance in court)."Look bro', sis.....whatever, I can understand your bitterness on being crushed in the polls last election night. It wasn't very fun for me in '92 and '96. "chump, if you're trying to make some sort of gender or sexuality based insult, please get your thoughts together and go ahead and make the insult, we don't have all day. By the way, it is easy to look on the online profile for users on this forum to get their name, if provided; this would rightly lead you to conclude that I am a 'sir'.Oh, and this election in the USA was hardly the democrats being 'crushed', they lost a few seats in Congress is all (while picking up some governorships).

I'm not sure if you are aware of the nature of mid term elections in the United States, but a Republican president has not picked up seats in both Houses since Teddy Roosevelt. Oh yeah, speaking of governorships, the Republicans picked up Georgia for the first time since Reconstruction.

The draft evasion was perpetrated by your boy BC, not GWB. President Bush had a jet motor strapped between his legs while BC was busy "not inhaling" the hippie lettuce at Oxford.

"The draft evasion was perpetrated by your boy BC, not GWB. President Bush had a jet motor strapped between his legs while BC was busy "not inhaling" the hippie lettuce at Oxford."

man, you're really a glutton for punishment. Little bush's "military record" is a pathetic joke. Consider... While the country was at war, with a draft in place, W had strings pulled to get him into the Texas Air National Guard, despite a year and a half waiting list which he didn't have to bother with, and a pilot aptitude test score of 25%. The head of the Air National Guard at that time was Gen. James Rose, who later stated "I got that Republican congressman's son from Houston into the Guard." After basic training he was given a 'direct appointment', bypassing the difficult and generally required Officer Candidate School, immediately making him an officer and getting him into flight training, which is also usually competitive and difficult. This was all highly unusual because Bush had no special skills, experience or qualifications; the historian for the Guard, Tom Hail, was asked about it later and said "I've never heard of that. Generally they did that for doctors only, mostly because we needed extra flight surgeons." Bush's flight training was exclusively on a plane which was about to be phased out of the military, ensuring he would have no chance of actually encountering any combat. He flew the F-102; shortly after his training was completed, all overseas F-102 units were shut down. The guard had a policy of granting early discharges to F-102 pilots since before Bush joined, since they were being phased out, and it wouldn't make sense to train someone for 2 years on that plane (the training is specific to the plane, he would not have had enough time to complete training to fly any other plane for the Guard). Next he was given a very questionable transfer to a unit that barely did anything, had no drills or work; essentially an inactive postal unit in Alabama. The transfer was overruled later. The personnel officer for Bush's group, Col. Rufus G. Martin, later acknowledged that he knew Bush was not eligible for the transfer but that he tried anyway; "It was the least participation of any type of unit." After this there was a period of a year where Bush didn't show up or do anything at all related to the Guard, having skipped out on everything after the military started including drug tests in their required annual physicals. As a result of missing the physical he was suspended from flying in August '72 and never flew again (Bush's presidential campaign stated to the Sunday Times in London that "He knew the suspension would have to take place"), and was ultimately not punished in any way for his lengthy absences, another unusual situation. Eventually special orders were sent mandating his appearance, and he worked 36 more days for the Guard before being granted an early discharge.

Speaking of New Order...

:p

What, my anonymous friend, is your source? I'd very much like to review the contextual circumstances of the quotes you pulled.

Just wondering.

An interesting aside: the Viet Nam records of BC and GWB hasn't seemed to hamper either one of their political carreers. Why do you think that is?

Michael McDermott wrote: "What, my anonymous friend, is your source? I'd very much like to review the contextual circumstances of the quotes you pulled.

Just wondering."

I'm neither anonymous nor your friend. I didn't pull the quotes from a single source, all the quotes are attributed to those who said them, while several of the other sources of info are named in my post. If you want more info, I suggest doing a Google search or going to your public library (you know, the one that W cut the funding for by 28%).

Too much trouble for you ? Not sure where the library is ? Here's some links:

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/Bush\_pressured\_on\_military\_gaps.shtml

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/bush072899.htm

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/Questions\_remain\_on\_Bush\_s\_service\_as\_Guard\_pilot+.shtml

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/07/04/bush.02/

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/dailynews/bush\_guard000624.html

Perhaps you can now give us some refried dogma on how the "liberal media", aka "those who would do him harm" are either all wrong or shouldn't have reported any of this ?

"An interesting aside: the Viet Nam records of BC and GWB hasn't seemed to hamper either one of their political carreers. Why do you think that is? "

My opinion is that the Vietnam war was so unpopular and so easy to avoid for those with the means that nobody really blames anyone for not going. That's pretty much the way I feel too, I'm bashing Bush for being a hypocrite about it, and for lying about his record, obstructing the truth and attacking anyone who brings it up, not for avoiding Vietnam. It is a basic truth that the 'haves' will exploit the 'have nots' and use their power to give themselves loopholes at the same time that they are forcing everybody else to bite the bullet, that's why you very rarely see any sons of privelege doing anything dangerous or undesirable like being in a war (Al Gore being a rare exception). It's mostly blacks, and poor to middle class whites, like my father, who went to Vietnam.

Do any of those links lead to Retro reviews?

Originally posted by The Happy One uhm...see what you started Agent????

yeah, so, um, my friend called new order wanky in this e-mail i got a while ago. let me tell you all about it.... :D

Originally posted by Andy T Before playing the BLT video on MTV's 120 Minutes once, a short interview clip with Barney aired. "When I was young, the only thing I was interested in was art. As soon as I discovered masterbation, I lost interest in art, 'cause I thought that was the only thing I really enyoyed doing."

I stayed on topic. I swear the above is true, I have it on video tape. I'm amazed that no one commented on it.

Originally posted by Andy T > Originally posted by Andy T> Before playing the BLT video on MTV's 120 Minutes once, a short interview clip with Barney aired. > > "When I was young, the only thing I was interested in was art. As soon as I discovered masterbation, I lost interest in art, 'cause I thought that was the only thing I really enyoyed doing."

I stayed on topic. I swear the above is true, I have it on video tape. I'm amazed that no one commented on it.

well, from what i've observed from the 'love will tear us apart' video and NO's performance of 'ceremony' on TOTP, there's certainly enough of him to, erm, 'play' with! (as deborah curtis noted, he did like to wear tight trousers!)

The close-up of Barney's hand on the keyboard always left me a bit envious.....