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AJWells wrote: there is no reason that New Order could not record and release a record as mind-bending as "Machine Gun", but of course they didnt... Ajw

Aren't they clever, they've dropped the Blue Monday drums through a sheet metal shredder and mixed them right up over the vocals. Decent effect but hardly anything new or groundbreaking - see Depeche, Aphex, Radiohead, NIN, etc.

Lazy analogy, anyhow.

Other than radically different styles, contexts and influences, Portishead released their first album around 16 years after NO/JD and this is now their third. Hardly a fair comparison in timeframes for the bands. Let's see what ground they're breaking in 2024. Perhaps you'll be trolling the Portishead forums by then, lamenting the passing of the good old days.

You continue to fail to grasp a rather simple concept: not all fans here are looking for the likes of 'mind-bending' industrial trip-hop from NO. Some just want a groove or some throwaway Bernard couplets. To deride them for enjoying different styles simply makes you look like an elitist bore.

Must be nearly 20 years now since NO have dropped a record that's gone close to meeting your expectations. Wonder what your motive is to keep returning here?

:\pimp3:

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Nick King wrote:

El Jarvo wrote: Sometimes I think you just chuck in random names to get a reaction. I mean, come on, be serious, Bernard collaborating with Burial? You really didn't think that one at all, did you? :lol:

I think that some of them aren't real bands, but just random words that seem to fill his head on a daily basis! :p

I mean, Notwist! Come on, apart from AJ, who else on this board has even heard of them, let alone heard what they sound like??? So, why on earth would Barney have ever heard of them???

:confused2:

:smoking:

notwist are quite good actually hence my avatar. Good mix of electronics and guitar like some other band i know.

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Ok kids... I just spent 30 minutes on a dazzling response to some of these nitwitted posts and when I hit submit everything vanished... that along with the continual resetting of my password on this site tells me its time to return to the land of the living... all the best!

Ajw

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AJWells wrote: This week another group of old has-beens who havent recorded in 10 years and were written off as irrelevant released their first single in a long time.. and it renews my faith in the ability of successful, mature, aging artists to ask more out of themselves than their fawning fans do... pushing themselves far beyond what is expected of them, they reinvent their entire approach to music and reveal a brutal new beauty which lifts the experience of all involved, most notably the listeners... there is no reason that New Order could not record and release a record as mind-bending as "Machine Gun", but of course they didnt...

Ajw

I was curious and went on YouTube to check out "Machine Gun" and I'm sorry to say this, but it's horrible music. I rather listen to "Jetstream" which is the New Order song I dislike the most.

At this point in time, I don't expect New Order to be innovative anymore. If they ever do another album or song, I just hope that it's good. I hardly hear any good song from other young artists, I'm not going to ask middle-aged men to reinvent music.

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Machine Gun is crap.

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Tarbox23 wrote: Machine Gun is crap.

I endured the whole song on YouTube today. I kept hanging on hoping it would get better, but it didn't. I'm glad it's not just me who thinks it's horrible. I thought at first perhaps I wasn't cultured enough to appreciate it. LOL

Anyhoo...new one minute samples of Miracle Cure for those interested off of Blank & Jones' MySpace page. Still can't find them on Beatport.com

Blank & Jones

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Tarbox23 wrote: Machine Gun is crap.

I don't think it's crap, per se, but it does sound exactly like Portishead just trying to do a pastiche of Portishead! It's not a complete diversion from what they've released previously, but it does sound like they're purposely trying to be more avant garde with this output. I can imagine some people will find this totally unlistenable however and genuinely hate it - and it ain't gonna get any airplay whatsoever is it? (which is something I think AJW purposely hankers after?).

Anyways, it's just Blue Monday, isn't it? With all the niceties stripped out! :lol:

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El Jarvo wrote:

AJWells wrote: Come on kids... this sort of music is everything that deadens your soul, dulls your spirit and kills your dreams... arent there any fans of this bands work left who value their experience just a little bit? Who dont just suck up any crumb their heroes cast off? This record is yet another laughable travesty...

No offence AJ, and I can't say I know the first thing about Blank & Jones, nor have I heard this tune, but ... I sincerely doubt whether they'd see you as their target audience! And if you did 'big up' their tuneage they'd probably go back to the drawing board for a rethink of how to get just 'the kids' interested instead.

Why must you always compare New Order to other artistes? I see no correlation between Portishead and New Order whatsoever. Have Portishead taken on a new direction, I've not heard Machine Gun? Are they no longer knocking out trip-hop then? Or is this the sorta genre New Order should've been delving into at the end of their career. Surely not?

Sometimes I think you just chuck in random names to get a reaction. I mean, come on, be serious, Bernard collaborating with Burial? You really didn't think that one at all, did you? :lol:

I always thought Portishead sounded nothing like New Order, but I got distracted by some tune on TV the other day and it was 'Machine Gun' by Portishead:

A pretty unispiring track, but a defo rip off of BM.

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This is the tracklist of the Single CD of Miracle Cure

  1. Miracle Cure (Radio Mix) 03:56
  2. Miracle Cure (Radient Radio Remix) 03:49
  3. Miracle Cure (OneTwo Remix) 04:39
  4. Miracle Cure (Lulu Rouge Remix) 05:32
  5. Miracle Cure (G.Morrison & B.Wong Remix) 08:03
  6. Miracle Cure (Wundermittel Remix) 06:50
  7. Miracle Cure (Extended Mix) 06:55

Miracle Cure on Amazon

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I just listened to the sample clip of 'Miracle Cure' on Blank and Jones' Myspace page, and I actually liked it! As for the remix, it probably has less of Barney's vocals than the original, but it made me want to listen to the original version. (However, I've heard remixes of songs that feature even less of the original song's vocals than this one, so the remix I heard wasn't too bad.)

(It reminded me slightly of GIAUE, though.)

I can't wait until this is officially available.

:love:

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bushwick bill wrote:

Nick King wrote:

El Jarvo wrote: Sometimes I think you just chuck in random names to get a reaction. I mean, come on, be serious, Bernard collaborating with Burial? You really didn't think that one at all, did you? :lol:

I think that some of them aren't real bands, but just random words that seem to fill his head on a daily basis! :p

I mean, Notwist! Come on, apart from AJ, who else on this board has even heard of them, let alone heard what they sound like??? So, why on earth would Barney have ever heard of them???

:confused2:

:smoking:

notwist are quite good actually hence my avatar. Good mix of electronics and guitar like some other band i know.

They're playing at the Primavera Festival in Barcelona, so I'll find out! :thumb:

:smoking:

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Liking the clips of the 3 remixes added to the Myspace now

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Miracle Cure - The Mixes Part 1

is now exclusive available on Beatport:

Glenn Morrison & Byron Wong Dub Mix Martin Roth New Style Dub Remix Blank & Jones Progressive Mix

GET IT HERE

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Cream1978 wrote: This is the tracklist of the Single CD of Miracle Cure

  1. Miracle Cure (Radio Mix) 03:56
  2. Miracle Cure (Radient Radio Remix) 03:49
  3. Miracle Cure (OneTwo Remix) 04:39
  4. Miracle Cure (Lulu Rouge Remix) 05:32
  5. Miracle Cure (G.Morrison & B.Wong Remix) 08:03
  6. Miracle Cure (Wundermittel Remix) 06:50
  7. Miracle Cure (Extended Mix) 06:55

Miracle Cure on Amazon

Where's the Martin Roth Remix?

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Sorry about above post, I replied before I read the last post :)

Has anybody else uploaded these remixes? :clap:

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Thank you so much for posting the link! For some reason I was unable to find it on my own.

The pre-order isn't available on Amazon.com yet. :(

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Hmmm... The music isn't too bad, the vocal tune is quite nice, but the lyrics sound like they were written by a 4 year old.

I'm sure I'll buy it anyway, but it will sit with the still-sealed copies of Jetstream and WIFM.

I'm glad some people here like it, it's good to know that music by NO members still enthuses people here. I just prefer the more guitar-based stuff, which is maybe why most of Bernard's releases sort of just pass me by :shrug:

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It's not too bad, I like the vocal, despite my recent ant barney comments, I do still love that voice. I can't help thinking somethings missing though, so here's my attempt at what it might be like had hooky been involved too!

Miracle Cure (Bandit Mix)

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Jed Stephens wrote: It's not too bad, I like the vocal, despite my recent ant barney comments, I do still love that voice. I can't help thinking somethings missing though, so here's my attempt at what it might be like had hooky been involved too!

Miracle Cure (Bandit Mix)

Yeah pretty good mate :thumb:.Good you've incorporated that Martin Roth mix which is my favourite clip so far

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the single version of the Blank & Jones sounds pretty good, aside from the typically bad Barney lyrics. the remix that's floating around is fine for immediately forgettable eurotrash that plays well in Hamburg.

oh, and that new Portishead single is pretentious crap. I've heard far better music in "Tetsuo: the Iron Man."

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johnny wrote:

Jed Stephens wrote: It's not too bad, I like the vocal, despite my recent ant barney comments, I do still love that voice. I can't help thinking somethings missing though, so here's my attempt at what it might be like had hooky been involved too!

Miracle Cure (Bandit Mix)

Yeah pretty good mate :thumb:.Good you've incorporated that Martin Roth mix which is my favourite clip so far

I bought the 3 track download, of the three mixes the Martin Roth mix is best imho, although it's the "Dub" and not the mix with Bernards vocals which is better,.

Does anyone have the Martin Roth "vocal" Remix they could share? Pretty please :)

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Well done, hooky is still alive :D

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I think this will be the first NO related release i wont bother with. Its an ok tune IMO but nothing more. i wouldnt dig it out and listen to it over and over

I used to prefer Barneys lyrics when i didnt know what they were about, he now has a tendancy to write lyrics that (like somebody else said above) sound like a 4 year old's. They seem to spell everything out, step by step, in a quite mundane way.

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Nice one Jed - I'd have done the same if I could have been bothered - the track is just crying out for Hooky's bass to give it some kind of element of interest.

Downloading your mix now :thumb:

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robB wrote:

I used to prefer Barneys lyrics when i didnt know what they were about, he now has a tendancy to write lyrics that (like somebody else said above) sound like a 4 year old's. They seem to spell everything out, step by step, in a quite mundane way.

Good point well made.I think this is the problem i had with the clip on first listen.Liking it more now though

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johnny wrote:

robB wrote:

I used to prefer Barneys lyrics when i didnt know what they were about, he now has a tendancy to write lyrics that (like somebody else said above) sound like a 4 year old's. They seem to spell everything out, step by step, in a quite mundane way.

Good point well made.I think this is the problem i had with the clip on first listen.Liking it more now though

I found its better to just listen to Barney and not try to figure what he's trying to say... he's more enjoyable that way.:nod:

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Well yeah.., there is that, aye

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