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Joy Division plusminus-Deluxe Boxset Buyers will get the missing items

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Well, at the end of the day, it's fair game that they have owned up to the monumental cock up (M1 revisited) and are rectifying the situation. Here's hoping this won't take too long.

And as one other poster has already pointed out, this stupid mishandling of the shipments is obscuring the fact that the actual songs have been mastered properly, with decent levels and all (obviously taking into account that so far I've only been able to hear the mp3 files).

But don't get me started on the fact that apparently, not all 21 tracks are included on the 2 (two!) CDs that belong in the Deluxe set...

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confusion wrote:

Chesty wrote: he said that their 3rd party distribution centre made a big mistake and are responsible- he said that they had been working hard and closely with the group to please fans and that tey even had the saville piece made in manchester to make it "the real deal" !!

I think, it's more a communication problem between Rhino and the distribution centre. As Adam said, if there would be stickers on it, it wouldn't have happened. A few guys have already the complete Deluxe-Set. It can't be, all Saville pieces would be in Manchester now.

actualyl he did say there was some kind of sticker covering a bar code with the new IAN or something? there was not on mine but mine was standard. does anyone here have deluxe and can check ?

but i dont understand what you mean by your second point!

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Chesty wrote:

confusion wrote:

Chesty wrote: he said that their 3rd party distribution centre made a big mistake and are responsible- he said that they had been working hard and closely with the group to please fans and that tey even had the saville piece made in manchester to make it "the real deal" !!

I think, it's more a communication problem between Rhino and the distribution centre. As Adam said, if there would be stickers on it, it wouldn't have happened. A few guys have already the complete Deluxe-Set. It can't be, all Saville pieces would be in Manchester now.

actualyl he did say there was some kind of sticker covering a bar code with the new IAN or something? there was not on mine but mine was standard. does anyone here have deluxe and can check ?

but i dont understand what you mean by your second point!

I know two guys from Germany who has the complete Deluxe-Set. It can't be true, if he has said, all artwork is still in Manchester.

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no made IN manchester, not housed in manchester !

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i read that as they will let us know within 48 hours???

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Chesty wrote: i read that as they will let us know within 48 hours???

...yes you might be right there - wishful thinking on my part (although it is possible for the sentence to have 2 meanings).

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I think it means they will let you know within 48 hours when they will be sending the missing items

Heven't checked back at home to see if the couriers have left a docket as yet, so at the moment I'm in the same boat as Shug - ie no box at all

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Shug wrote:

Chesty wrote:

he said a further statement should be out soon but no-one who ordered a standard will be getting a delux...

......cunts

Still nae sign of mine!

that's because you didn't even bother to order one....

cheap git...

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Well, I ordered the deluxe and standard versions. Deluxe for me and standard for a present. Not got either yet which could be: a) good - Rhino now have time to sort out sending the right ones b) bad - wrong ones are on the way, or c) very bad - some bastard has nicked them.

:\ohwell:

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Clive Snippers wrote: Postman just been. Still haven't received anything. Anyone else still waiting? (barring snow)

I'm starting to sound a bit like a deluxe broken record... But yes I'm still waiting for my deluxe box set...

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got e-mail today box set out of stock - placed order November .Have to look else where , why take orders when thet havent got the stock

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Denholm Reynholm wrote: Rhino release another NO/JD turd? Shock. Horror. I am a bit taken aback that some fans are still surprised at all this as there has not been a truly decent JD/NO reissue for the best part of a decade. Truly, where will it end?

If you're lucky enough to own a large selection of the original Factory releases then hold them close to your bosom... they are truly as good as it gets. None and I do mean none of this Warners/Rhino stuff will be worth much in years to come from a collectable sense.

There, I've said it :shrug:

Agreed! London have had nearly 20 years to give us a definitive compilation and they still ain't managed it. Nor will they ever. With relatively few actual songs they could've got it right but... Hats off to http://neworder-recycle.blogspot.com/

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Chesty wrote: that link works for me........ it redirects to http://www.pushentertainment.com/564

....yeah you will notice that I have now deleted that post. I tried downloading the Free MP3s (according to the instructions in the box) using FIREFOX but the link failed.

I then tried again in Internet Explorer and all was OK. Still total rank amateurs for not making it Firefox compatible.

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Adam Tate wrote:

Chesty wrote: that link works for me........ it redirects to http://www.pushentertainment.com/564

....yeah you will notice that I have now deleted that post. I tried downloading the Free MP3s (according to the instructions in the box) using FIREFOX but the link failed.

I then tried again in Internet Explorer and all was OK. Still total rank amateurs for not making it Firefox compatible.

It works for me in firefox.............. i think your computer hates you.

and you hate everyone else!

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hibster wrote: t'other half has my one - a deluxe ordered for xmas she's going to have to get the scales out by the sound of it :nuts:

standard box received :nonono: :nonono: :nonono:

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Really, does any of this matter?. I mean, really?

It's just a box of stuff we won't use.

Which will arrive eventually. To be placed on a shelf after the briefest of perusals, like a postcard from an Aunty. Noones going to actually play the vinyl, are they?. We've all heard the tunes a million times before so what's the point in stressing?. Tis the season to be jolly etc etc.

And btw, I saw, even held, the standard version last night, at the +- launch event at RTE. It looks ace. Better than I was expecting. Something to look forward to.

Quick question - Where did the inspiration for the +- label come from and who chose it? (Anyone else at the Q&A last night, need not reply).

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one of the re-releases of atmosphere had a plus & minus sign as the sleeve if that helps? :shrug:

the deluxe has the cds & the artwork ie the only things that are new & could be used, so yes, it matters

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facd213

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Well done Dave, that's where the +- comes from.

Can't wait to receive the CDs, what with all that new Joy Division material. Its like Xmas and my birthday all at once. This is soooooooo important.

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I'm quite willing to be proved wrong but I think we'll be lucky to get the 'deluxe' contents this side of Xmas. Call me cynical...

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Clive Snippers wrote: I'm quite willing to be proved wrong but I think we'll be lucky to get the 'deluxe' contents this side of Xmas.

Which year?

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I only ordered standard box but this has not arrived at all. Anybody else waiting? Is it that if you ordered the deluxw you get a standard and if you ordered standard you get nothing at all

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I ordered a deluxe and am still waiting

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I ordered Deluxe and received Deluxe today. Can anybody advise on the Saville insert? It's bizarre. Do the outer layers peel off? I can't discern wtf it's supposed to be. Sleeves are photos of original sleeves which seems like a very bizarre and cheap way to do it.

By tilting my box I could tell it included the CD's. If you don't want to open your box to tell, you should be able to tilt it up and down and hear the cd's slide.

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Johnny Giles wrote: Really, does any of this matter?. I mean, really?

It's just a box of stuff we won't use.

It does, cannae wait to play them. Parties at mine always involve me getting out the ole records :nod:

And for the record, mines still hasnae arrived!!!

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Just got this update email from Rhino :-

"the missing items to upgrade the Joy Devision Plus Minus + - Standard Box to a Deluxe Box are on their way to our warehouse and will be sent out to you as soon as possible.

We apologize most sincerely for the long wainting time!"

...not sure what "wainting time" is - but good that they are on the case.

...strange that these items are being sent to the warehouse - I thought they said they were already there - maybe they have had to knock a few more sets up.

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Johnny Giles wrote: Well done Dave, that's where the +- comes from.

Can't wait to receive the CDs, what with all that new Joy Division material. Its like Xmas and my birthday all at once. This is soooooooo important.

Is there actually new material on the CD's? Made a big error in just gettign the standard if thats the case. What are they different versions of the tracks you geto on the 7"'s?

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The Shadow wrote:

Johnny Giles wrote: Well done Dave, that's where the +- comes from.

Can't wait to receive the CDs, what with all that new Joy Division material. Its like Xmas and my birthday all at once. This is soooooooo important.

Is there actually new material on the CD's? Made a big error in just gettign the standard if thats the case. What are they different versions of the tracks you geto on the 7"'s?

...no new material - same tracks as on the vinyl. The mastering is different so if we are lucky the sound quality might be better than existing CDs.

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